rFactor2 Test Build 107 Released

Discussion in 'General Discussion' started by 88mphTim, Aug 30, 2012.

  1. 88mphTim

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    There will be a new car added shortly, and a new track not long after. I'm not aware of any immediate content updates (to existing ones) planned soon, though they are needed, they may wait to group multiple fixes together so you aren't having to update a hundred times (and get feedback from people on a hundred different versions).
     
  2. MaXyM

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    I agree with you, with addition that 100% sim without decent gfx representation is also not a sim too. I caouldn't say current gfx is 'more than adequate'. IMO it is not even adequate. I would rather say 'it is acceptable'.
    Your 'more than adequate' with conjunction of 'I am not looking for pCARS graphics' means that you don't want realistic gfx in simulation.
     
  3. GTrFreak

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    How does 'not looking for' mean 'don't want to see'
     
  4. Ryno917

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    Happy to report that I too received a 20-30FPS boost with the latest update. I'm running on ATI hardware, as well.
     
  5. jtbo

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    Me? I just attempted to tell how I see when driving fast, I intentionally leave out not important things and focus to only edges of road etc. it really does not matter for me if there are only graphics of that 1981 game or something more modern when I try to drive fast, but of course when going slower it would be nice to have pretty pictures too.
     
  6. 1959nikos

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    Extremist view at least...
     
  7. SteveGee

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    +1

    I've seen a large FPS boost myself, running ATI CrossfireX, compared to the previous Build.
     
  8. K Szczech

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    And I think your "means" in conjunction with "don't" with the possible exception of "want" means you're just over-sensitive to what people say about graphics ;)
     
  9. Mulero

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    I must be the only one in each buid i have worse performance ... : (

    Resolution: 1920x1080
    AntiAliasing: SuperSamplingAA x4
    HDR: ON
    Vsync: OFF
    FXAA: OFF
    Graphic Options: All to Max
    Texture Filter: X2 Anisotropic
    Special Effects: Full
    Shadows: High

    The rest all activated except Road reflection and Environment Reflection.
    Only one car.

    -Estoril Build 049 with Megane: Min 34, Max 47, Media 38.097
    -Estoril Build 060 with Megane: Min 38, Max 51, Media 44.748
    -Estoril Build 085 with Megane: Min 44, Max 71, Media 50,808
    -Estoril Build 090 with Megane: Min 42, Max 64, Media 48.334
    -Estoril Build 101 with Megane: Min 30, Max 56, Media 44.471
    -Estoril Build 107 with Megane: Min 33, Max 52, Media 41,265

    -Malaysia Build 049 with Megane: Min 35, Max 50, Media 42.527
    -Malaysia Build 060 with Megane: Min 42, Max 60, Media 48.361
    -Malaysia Build 085 with Megane: Min 48, Max 77, Media 61.285
    -Malaysia Build 090 with Megane: Min 45, Max 69, Media 54.464
    -Malaysia Build 101 with Megane: Min 36, Max 60, Media 47.447
    -Malaysia Build 107 with Megane: Min 38, Max 58, Media 46,464

    -Mills Long Build 049 with Megane: Min 32, Max 47, Media 37.249
    -Mills Long Build 060 with Megane: Min 34, Max 48, Media 42.796
    -Mills Long Build 085 with Megane: Min 43, Max 63, Media 49,490
    -Mills Long Build 090 with Megane: Min 43, Max 48, Media 45.212
    -Mills Long Build 101 with Megane: Min 31, Max 57, Media 40.462
    -Mills Long Build 107 with Megane: Min 30, Max 58, Media 40,916

    -Monaco Build 049 with EVE F2: Min 30, Max 53, Media 38.622
    -Monaco Build 060 with EVE F2: Min 35, Max 66, Media 47.992
    -Monaco Build 085 with EVE F2: Min 44, Max 77, Media 55,524
    -Monaco Build 090 with EVE F2: Min 39, Max 70, Media 50.007
    -Monaco Build 101 with EVE F2: Min 28, Max 59, Media 41.006
    -Monaco Build 107 with EVE F2: Min 28, Max 71, Media 42,042

    -Spa Build 049 with EVE F2: Min 32, Max 51, Media 42.544
    -Spa Build 060 with EVE F2: Min 40, Max 69, Media 55.063
    -Spa Build 085 with EVE F2: Min 50, Max 80, Media 64,361
    -Spa Build 090 with EVE F2: Min 50, Max 73, Media 62.987
    -Spa Build 101 with EVE F2: Min 31, Max 61, Media 45.095
    -Spa Build 107 with EVE F2: Min 32, Max 61, Media 45.601


    I reinstalled the Build 49 and Build 85 to test with the reflections activated and in a race with more cars. Here if there is some improvement.

    Resolution: 1920x1080
    AntiAliasing: SuperSamplingAA x4
    HDR: ON
    Vsync: OFF
    FXAA: OFF
    Graphic Options: All to Max
    Texture Filter: X2 Anisotropic
    Special Effects: Full
    Shadows: Max

    Only one car

    -Estoril Build 049 with Megane: Min 24, Max 34, Media 27,611
    -Estoril Build 085 with Megane: Min 31, Max 40, Media 35,261
    -Estoril Build 101 with Megane: Min 21, Max 34, Media 27,288
    -Estoril Build 107 with Megane: Min 25, Max 39, Media 31,939--


    Race with 12 cars. 3 Laps, start at 7 position

    -Estoril Build 049 with Megane: Min 07, Max 26, Media 19,926
    -Estoril Build 085 with Megane: Min 18, Max 39, Media 27,203
    -Estoril Build 101 with Megane: Min 12, Max 29, Media 22,123
    -Estoril Build 107 with Megane: Min 11, Max 37, Media 26,680
     
  10. jtbo

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    Maybe, but then again without glasses I have nature's own motion blur cranked to max...

    Also I suffer bit from this, even they don't diagnose such things here.
    http://www.aoa.org/x5253.xml

    Sitting front of screen most of the time since 80's.
     
  11. Mitt Wilson

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    Build 107 Feels Amazing- BUT FIX THE LOGITECH RATTLING PLEASE !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! < please.>
     
  12. Gearjammer

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    Hehehe, sounds a bit like me, though my issues stem from not wanting to get up from the computer, not just sitting in front for too long. :)
     
  13. Johannes Rojola

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    Well I agree with jtbo. If you really want go fast and test your driving limits you want to strip the audiovisual representation to minimum. If you just like to enjoy driving then nice audiovisuals add to the experience. I happened to love Stunts racing game because it audiovisual feedback was so minimal that you really just focused on driving perfection. Lap after lap after lap... It was very nice hotlapping game. I never had such fun with modern simulators, they offer eye candy for other purposes.
     
  14. 1959nikos

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    need for speed shift and codemasters formula1 are gathering dust on my desk, but you guys are over the top me thinks :)
     
  15. jtbo

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    Nah, just different view to world.

    I do really like pretty pictures too, but when I get serious for hotlapping, it really does not matter at all how pretty or ugly graphics are as long as one can see where one is going.

    There was also other game like stunts for Amiga, it had more ideas put into it, but was laggy and buggy, still I liked it a lot:


    And I still would like rF2 a lot if graphics would be like that, don't know why, but it just is so for me that graphics are just a bonus, certainly a nice bonus, but I'm terrible finding bugs in graphics as I just don't notice them.
     
  16. Mulero

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    The graphics are better or worse is no problem to drive, which is a problem are graphic errors. See vibrating textures, shadows generated few feet ahead or objects appearing out of nowhere is very annoying.
     
  17. MaXyM

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    Yes I do. Especially while people says they doesn't care about gfx in sims. In result, we have no single simulation with decent/modern gfx engine... why should companies invest time and money to develop realistic looking gfx if customer is happy without it?
     
  18. Johannes Rojola

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    Because of majority of players are not happy with crappy graphics.
     
  19. Marc Collins

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    Despite one or two people over- and mis-interpreting, I will clarify by saying I agree. If perfect graphics can accompany perfect physics, then do it. Assuming not, and one thing has to suffer, let it be the graphics.

    Since the graphics when sitting still are more than adequate for my purposes in rF2, I am focusing my distress on the shimmering, flickering, vibrating textures and wonky shadows and jaggies. Problem is that to fix all these will likely kill frame rates, so....???
     
  20. MaXyM

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    Really? I have a feeling that majority says that they doesn't care about gfx. Read the last 20 posts from this thread and count how many users said, they doesn't care about it when hot-lapping.
    Then go to screenshot thread to see people excited about ****ty looking pics.

    If your thesis was true, ISI wouldn't learn graphics right now - they had 7 years for it.
     

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