[REL] [Open Beta v0.9] International Formula Series 3

Derek Nye said:
Yep, Stephen (liquid) is gonna fix that. If you could PM me over on our forums, I'd like to see what your controller profile is for your g25 as you say you have pretty heavy/strong ffb on both this and the mazda and i dont seem to get nearly that much so i wonder if its down to settings.
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Will do... :)
 
Kev said:
When i using modern simulator, i expect that its content uses all features this sim providing. Using old model is just making rFactor 1 from rFactor 2. If i wanted to drive good F3 in rFactor 1, i can run rFactor 1 and select Japan F3 mod for example.
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When using a modern simulator, you should expect that the content is as close as the real thing as possible. If the game offers new features which from you don't have any kind of data about, then it's a guessing game.

I find it funny how people gets fooled so easily with "new features"...
 
I tried v0.6 and must admit I wasn't a big fan as it seemed to have unrealistic levels of grip but this new 0.7 version feels miles better to me. Just had great fun lapping at Silverstone. Looking forward to see how this develops :)
 
Derek Nye said:
@kev, i can assure you they aren't the exact same, and i also explained earlier in the thread that there are very minor difference between them because the tires have very little difference between them. Though that much doesn't matter because I'm rebuilding those anyway as there has been issues with the heating and retaining heat.
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You lying. TGMs are exact same. To the last byte. Physics of this tires is absolutely same.
Looking forward to try new tires.

Also, you really gotta reset settings for your wheel because i can confirm that on Mazda 787B FFB is ultra strong. I have CSW and seems like only forces used is no force, full force to the left and full force to the right.

edit: Or you mean real tires have little difference so you made them equal? You didn't answer to my question: was it intentional?
 
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Kev said:
You lying. TGMs are exact same. To the last byte. Physics of this tires is absolutely same.
Looking forward to try new tires.

Also, you really gotta reset settings for your wheel because i can confirm that on Mazda 787B FFB is ultra strong. I have CSW and seems like only forces used is no force, full force to the left and full force to the right.

edit: Or you mean real tires have little difference so you made them equal? You didn't answer to my question: was it intentional?
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The TGMs are the construction of the tire which, between the coopers and dunlops are like a couple mil difference so those for the most part are the same, slight differences but almost the same. the TBC, which does still affect the player car in certain categories also give the performance of the car and those are different.

To the FFB bit, i do have ffb on this or that, but for some reason on these cars as i have said, i dont have the issue you have, but as tjc has the same wheel i'm gonna look into what he has his set as and see if i can't replicate it.
 
I think the discussion on the mazda should be not tied to this thread. As mentioned on the classic cars thread the new FFB on the Mazda has a major problems for me. As many others have also stated I have to run a multi of .01-.02 and still receive lots of clipping.

Feedback on F3:-

I tried the F3.5 FFB upgrade and it is better however IMO it still is very aggressive on my CSR e. I monitor for clipping and for the F3.5 I generally run a multi of 1.05-1.10 with a smoothening of 10 however for this mod with the 3.5 FFB upgrade I have tried a multi of 0.7 with a smoothening of 20+ and I still receive clipping. The wheel torque feels firm and fine and I actually have my Steering torque sensitivity (controller.ini) set to 1.5 however the FFB generated from the surface undulation seems very extreme. Even with a soft spring rate and low bump dampers there is a fair bit of jolt going on through the rack. Maybe some of this feedback is from the lower profile tyre?
 
Derek Nye said:
The TGMs are the construction of the tire which, between the coopers and dunlops are like a couple mil difference so those for the most part are the same, slight differences but almost the same. the TBC, which does still affect the player car in certain categories also give the performance of the car and those are different.
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Actually TBC doesn't affect physics of player's tires anymore. Only values taken from there is tire width used to draw skidmarks on tarmac afaik.
TGM describes not only construction of tire but its reaction to different forces (read: whole physic of tire). Quasistatic analysis calculates lookup tables for that.
Good luck.

Also, try to update/reinstall latest version of Logitech profiler. I had some issues with old profiler with my G25 when i used it. Then set all values to default (don't remember is there "reset" button) e.g. Force = 100%, springs = 0%, dampers = 0% (rFactor doesn't use springs and damper forces). Turn off centering spring. Then check your controller.ini in userdata: Type=1, Skip=0, Steering effects strength=10000 (ten thousand), Filter not more than 10-15. Also check vehicle specific FFB mult on controller settings screen in rFactor.
 
Kev said:
Actually TBC doesn't affect physics of player's tires anymore. Only values taken from there is tire width used to draw skidmarks on tarmac afaik.
TGM describes not only construction of tire but its reaction to different forces (read: whole physic of tire). Quasistatic analysis calculates lookup tables for that.
Good luck.

Also, try to update/reinstall latest version of Logitech profiler. I had some issues with old profiler with my G25 when i used it. Then set all values to default (don't remember is there "reset" button) e.g. Force = 100%, springs = 0%, dampers = 0% (rFactor doesn't use springs and damper forces). Turn off centering spring. Then check your controller.ini in userdata: Type=1, Skip=0, Steering effects strength=10000 (ten thousand), Filter not more than 10-15. Also check vehicle specific FFB mult on controller settings screen in rFactor.
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As to the controls, i've done all that, i've been working with tjc since he uses a G25 and i copied his settings directly and still have the same issue. as to the TBC, it takes the width, the optimum temperatures and the starting temperatures from it as well, which are all performance factors.
 
v0.7 of the mod is now available here on the ISI Forums Download Section. If you have issues downloading from our site or our mirror, get it straight from these forums HERE
 
Ok im confused , I already have v07 that i downloaded on the 7th ? is this the same file ?? i had to change from .man and now it says i have 2 files same name ??
or am i just lame ?? you posted on the 13th but ive had a v 07 for the last week or so .. lol

hmmm ..
 
I found this a little :confused: too at first but I don`t think there`s a newer version 0.7... I think Petros was saying v0.7 is now available here, in the ISI downloads section...

(The new download links at the top of the page)

:)
 
Its the same file guys, I was just posting to say that it is also available here on the forums too now as an additional method to download. :)
 
In regards to the dashboard issues, those will be resolved in the next version. We're doing updates that will stop that from occurring in the future. :)
 
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