Le Mans Ultimate

UGM 133A said:
Realistic means you feel what the car is doing through the steering. If the wheel is randomly oscillating in a straight line then you can't drive it like a real car, because in a real car when you come out of a corner the self aligning torque is what guides you onto the next straight, if you don't have realistic self alignment torque you won't know what you're doing. There's a reason why so many people are saying they don't feel confident through corners in LMU.

Maybe you thought I meant realistic physics is noob friendly.
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There is a lot happening in LMU right now, just look at the forum or discord. Things not working, things half working, UI options that actually aren't meant to be there, or don't work properly. A tooltip that gave the exact opposite of correct advice for DD wheels.

Day 3 of EA: let's not jump to conclusions just yet. As everyone knows, this is an enhanced rF2. The physics hasn't disappeared. (nor the ways FFB levels are calculated, something many people apparently still have no understanding of...)
 
Lazza said:
There is a lot happening in LMU right now, just look at the forum or discord. Things not working, things half working, UI options that actually aren't meant to be there, or don't work properly. A tooltip that gave the exact opposite of correct advice for DD wheels.

Day 3 of EA: let's not jump to conclusions just yet. As everyone knows, this is an enhanced rF2. The physics hasn't disappeared. (nor the ways FFB levels are calculated, something many people apparently still have no understanding of...)
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Never claimed there weren't known issues. I know it's EA and what that means, I just kind of assumed the FFB would be more or less copy and pasted from rF2 and honestly was surprised when I realized it's not. I'm no software engineer by any means, so maybe it's not that simple.

The only downside of the FFB issues for me is that I can't really test the rest of the driving experience. I tried driving with the strength turned way down so I don't break a thumb, but then I just couldn't feel anything at all in 80% of scenarios.
 
UGM 133A said:
The only downside of the FFB issues for me is that I can't really test the rest of the driving experience. I tried driving with the strength turned way down so I don't break a thumb, but then I just couldn't feel anything at all in 80% of scenarios.
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That's the rF2 FFB right there. Some cars feel great (e.g. GT3, Porshe Cup Car) and some feel exactly like what you describe. Either you crank up the FFB to feel the car but then break your wrists on road surface or tone down the FFB not the break the wrists but don't feel the car. E.g. the Caterham Academy. I hear it's the same with LMU (good for GTE/LMP2, poor for Hybrids). So I'd say they nailed the FFB in LMU as they did in rF2. All the best and the worst at the same time :D
 
Havner said:
That's the rF2 FFB right there. Some cars feel great (e.g. GT3, Porshe Cup Car) and some feel exactly like what you describe. Either you crank up the FFB to feel the car but then break your wrists on road surface or tone down the FFB not the break the wrists but don't feel the car. E.g. the Caterham Academy. I hear it's the same with LMU (good for GTE/LMP2, poor for Hybrids). So I'd say they nailed the FFB in LMU as they did in rF2. All the best and the worst at the same time :D
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I have no more issue with the Caterham now, at 35% with a simucube 2 pro, it feels so much alive than the AMS2 version, almost perfect with the auto blip fixed.
 
AlexHeuskat said:
Can we race Nordschleife with a Caterham ? no, so it's not at all an enhanced rF2, it's a numbed rF2....
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He obviously meant the base game engine, no need to be pedantic, it doesn't help anyone. LMU still has potential to be a good WEC sim, and honestly if their success means we get some classic Group C cars with realistic manual transmissions, then I really hope they find success with LMU, because the chances of those cars coming to rF2 are slim to none without LMU.

Havner said:
That's the rF2 FFB right there. Some cars feel great (e.g. GT3, Porshe Cup Car) and some feel exactly like what you describe. Either you crank up the FFB to feel the car but then break your wrists on road surface or tone down the FFB not the break the wrists but don't feel the car. E.g. the Caterham Academy. I hear it's the same with LMU (good for GTE/LMP2, poor for Hybrids). So I'd say they nailed the FFB in LMU as they did in rF2. All the best and the worst at the same time :D
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Only the cars with the "original method" of FFB I have issues with. I actually have a separate controller file that messes with the linearity specifically for those old cars. Any of the the cars after they changed the FFB method I have no problems with, especially the caterham which is one of my favorite cars and something I've driven in real life at Willow springs for a couple dozen laps. The FFB with a SC2 pro is almost exactly 1:1 with the real car.
 
AlexHeuskat said:
I have no more issue with the Caterham now, at 35% with a simucube 2 pro, it feels so much alive than the AMS2 version, almost perfect with the auto blip fixed.
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You mean the S397 fixed the auto blip or you're talking about my old fix I provided? If they patched it I need to check it, I haven't driven that car for some time.
 
AlexHeuskat said:
they all went in the wall and couldn't find the road again......major issue.
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So, again, like rF2 on many occasions? If you go through practice, qualifying, and then do a race, the AI are usually good with latest official content, but even then I've had them do weird crashes like that sometimes.
 
UGM 133A said:
So, again, like rF2 on many occasions? If you go through practice, qualifying, and then do a race, the AI are usually good with latest official content, but even then I've had them do weird crashes like that sometimes.
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i only race without practice or qualy in rF2, I have no issue, I only do 20/30 min races
 
UGM 133A said:
He seems to be enjoying it, aside from the known issues.
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How do you pan a 2 day EA release ?
steroids :p
People point out the obvious are oblivious.
Sprinkle some pixie dust fixes all.

Like making multi class quick race grids a wish already for LMU .... forget rF2 lol
I gave people a fix for that 12 year ago, my discovery as I never heard anyone else mention it.
Make a rfmod, make a private server and join it. lol yes that simple.
In server menu quickly click on precise grid order.
Tell me what other sim allows you to do that ? None that I drive.

Doing the same thing in offline menu you will be clicking back and forwards endlessly to get the right grid ....if ever.
Not only that the grid is either random with different cars on pole every time.
My way gives you a third option ..to have exact grid you want not the game.
So you can setup any real race, proper grid and take screenshots turn 1.

My way you can watch test races in window while you do something else. IE: offline mode pauses multi tasking.
No there is no lag.. No you don't need to forward ports to join your own server on same PC.


ON TOPIC:
I see no reason if/once public servers are available you won't be able to do the same thing in LMU.
 
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