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Actually no, we all did pay for the full "gold" product. It's absurd to claim that we do not have any rights to gold. You can call it front payment. We ordered something that is not there yet, but in order to get it faster we accepted the terms to pay the full price beforehand. I have assumed that ISI needed the money to get the job done.

Not sure if it gives them more or less motivation to make the game good now when they have some of the money beforehand...at least they have large audience now that are willing to offer their free opinion of the game developed. I believe it's all worth the risk for ISI for those reasons (money to make the game and community help) despite the critic they are also recieving.
 
tjc said:
First of all I`m not resigned to anything...

Secondly ISI have said (certainly as far as this latest update is concerned) that they have come across quite a big problem that affected several other things to do with that update and you think by bitching in their ears your going to motivate them?

Next time you have some kind of problem in your life that`s holding you back from getting somewhere/doing something why don`t you let us all know and we`ll moan and bitch to you about it... see if that motivates you!

If someone has a problem it`s usually help, support and encouragement that makes them overcome it, not pathetic, negative whining...[/QUOTE]

come on... are we in the kindergarden here? It's a grown-up company that is developing SIMs since many years...
honestly, if ISI needs encouragement to finish a product they sold 12 months ago I don't understand anything anymore.
HELLOOO: ISI a commercial company that wants to make money at the end! They are not a bunch of students that sacrifice their freetime to develop an open source projet.
As soon as they publish the source code of rf2 as open source, I'll make a free donation, will feel sorry for them and would never complain...
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osella said:
You paid for the beta in the first place, which you have been able to download for more than 11 months.
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As far as I know, i have pre purchased rFactor2, with early access to the beta.

Now I have the early access to the beta but I want to know when I will get the product I have paid for.
I hope you guys don't feel offended by this simple question, as I see some of you are very sensitive in your relationship to ISI.

I also hope I as a customer will get a reasonable answer from somebody of the ISI stuff or Mr. Cmaj himself.
 
Cracheur said:
come on... are we in the kindergarden here? It's a grown-up company that is developing SIMs since many years...
honestly, if ISI needs encouragement to finish a product they sold 12 months ago I don't understand anything anymore.
HELLOOO: ISI a commercial company that wants to make money at the end! They are not a bunch of students that sacrifice their freetime to develop an open source projet.
As soon as they publish the source code of rf2 as open source, I'll make a free donation, will feel sorry for them and would never complain...
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Well since you mention kindergarden I`d say it`s far more mature to hear why somethings gone over budget or taking longer than everyone expected and react positively with some understanding, than to just endlessly complain and moan about it which is what a spoiled child would do...
 
Mrslfrsl said:
As far as I know, i have pre purchased rFactor2, with early access to the beta.

Now I have the early access to the beta but I want to know when I will get the product I have paid for.
I hope you guys don't feel offended by this simple question, as I see some of you are very sensitive in your relationship to ISI.

I also hope I as a customer will get a reasonable answer from somebody of the ISI stuff or Mr. Cmaj himself.
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Yes that's right. You won't get very specific answer, all that ISI confirmed is that it will be in 2013.
 
osella said:
Yes that's right. You won't get very specific answer, all that ISI confirmed is that it will be in 2013.
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where have you seen that confirmed??? I don't remember that. I do remember Tim saying that they were still 'aiming'/'on course' for a 2013 release, but not an actual confirmation that it is sure. But as I said, I might have missed it ;)
 
Guy Moulton said:
Well, we've been waiting forever and no one has even mentioned what the track and car will be. Since it's been delayed so many times, can you just tell us what they are? I know you want to surprise us and whatever and it'd be great to find out on the day it drops, but jesus- it's been forever, just spill the beans.
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We're not interested in creating hype, thanks. It's not a finished product. :)
 
Mrslfrsl said:
As far as I know, i have pre purchased rFactor2, with early access to the beta.

Now I have the early access to the beta but I want to know when I will get the product I have paid for.
I hope you guys don't feel offended by this simple question, as I see some of you are very sensitive in your relationship to ISI.

I also hope I as a customer will get a reasonable answer from somebody of the ISI stuff or Mr. Cmaj himself.
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I believe there is a better ways to contact ISI than this forum in your matter. The main point of this forum is to share feelings, opinions and tips concerning the game itself. If you are fed up, then maybe you can get a better response by contacting ISI customer service (if they have one :P)?

Like Depeche Mode once said:

"Words are very unnecessary
They can only do harm...
Vows are spoken
To be broken...
Words are meaningless
And forgettable...
Words are very unnecessary
They can only do harm
...
Enjoy the silence"

Good philosophy in there... less talk, more action ;)
 
osella said:
Have to say this update made me even more confused (yeah its true what somebody posted on these forums: dont tell them nothing, they whine. Tell them something specific, they whine even more why there isnt something else).

I'm sorry but I just don't get it. Why delay an update because of a skins related function when no modders make new cars, overall content is so limited and there are 1000s FAR more imporant functions missing?
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Because it was decided to do so, as the code half finished affected the multiplayer aspects too much.
 
Mrslfrsl said:
Thank you for the update on the progress.
When will I get the product I have paid for?
Many thanks in advance for the answer.
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You pre-ordered the finished product. Which you will get when it is that finished product. There is no set date for that.
 
Tim Wheatley said:
You pre-ordered the finished product. Which you will get when it is that finished product. There is no set date for that.
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Well, don't know what to say, that's not a acceptable answer really IMHO. But I guess that's my problem.
Thank you for the answer anyway.
 
I'm here!
I love RF2. Take your time. You are always the best!
Thanks for the update on developments.

Sincerely.
 
Mrslfrsl said:
Well, don't know what to say, that's not a acceptable answer really IMHO. But I guess that's my problem.
Thank you for the answer anyway.
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Only answer possible.

The only other related thing which has been said, was an estimated length of the testing, which was incorrect. At no other time has a date been said (and I am seeing that I have said 2013? I haven't said 2013 - not that any conclusions should be drawn from that, either.)
 
Mrslfrsl said:
Well, don't know what to say, that's not a acceptable answer really IMHO. But I guess that's my problem.
Thank you for the answer anyway.
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I don't think it's you.... I fully share your view. We pre-purchased rF2 while we've been told that the product would be more or less ready within 6 months. (> what you call beta)
The question is now what is acceptable as "more or less": as we've doubled the time already I think this is far "more" than you could reasonnably accept.
And once again: the time is not the problem (at least for me) but the way ISI tells us to p... off.

I think we have enough critisim now to close the thread now...as usually.
 
Tim Wheatley said:
Only answer possible.

The only other related thing which has been said, was an estimated length of the testing, which was incorrect. At no other time has a date been said (and I am seeing that I have said 2013? I haven't said 2013 - not that any conclusions should be drawn from that, either.)
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There was this thread "Gold before 2014?" and I remember you saying Yes, I can be wrong though.
 
Cracheur said:
come on Tim, can you seriously not even give a handshake on GOLD in 2013...
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Funny that you talked about rFactor 2 not taking up large amounts of time in your life...seems like it plagues your every thought...XD

What would be the point in a "handshake" regarding gold? Is that in any way going to affect the actual first full release?
Whats its going to do is make you a) pissed off because they could give you a handshake for 2015 to cover there asses, or b) a date that may very well be passed over, which will get you all bitchy again because they missed YOUR deadline.



You mentioned how you have no gratitude towards companies, and groups who provide service to you, only gratitude for people personally and emotionally involved with you. Seems you expect ISI to show gratitude towards you though, for the hardships you've been through waiting for rF2. But you are just a customer, ISI aren't involved emotionally with you...:rolleyes:
 
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