Information regarding rFactor 2 Steam (FAQ)

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Skan said:
The steam version ONLY automatically downloads and installs ISI/3PA content on the first run. It will not attempt to add everything in the workshop, if that's what You are worried about. The full steam install is about 25 gigs. Unsubscribing is not as tedious as You think since there are not hundreds or thousands of tracks and cars to look through.
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Thank you !
So I'll have to wait about 15 hours and my bud around... 30 hours (using this tool). That's what I call devilish in case you wonder :rolleyes:
 
marrs said:
So the dedicated server is actually a "lite" install, that part is covered.

The second part of your idea is actually one of the options we discussed before for the client. In the end we decided against it, because we wanted to have a rich "out of the box" experience for new customers, meaning we wanted everything to be installed. As you probably know you can "unsubscribe" from items in the workshop after the initial install, if you don't want certain content.

I imagine we could consider making a special tool for the dedicated server that lists items in the workshop and allows you to quickly install some or all of them. I personally like the idea of having some tool to manage a dedicated server installation like that.
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Now we are talking! :)
Now look "because we wanted to have a rich "out of the box" experience for new customers" hmm... you gotta be more consistent on that then. Start by eliminating the need to go to the player file when some settings could just be in the game menu (that is not as good as it should be let's be honest).
 
wow, such costumer unfriendly, one sided terms of use are probably only allowed in good old USA :D
Well, I would do it the same way if it was allowed. provide any possible case.
 
SRGP said:
Thank you !
So I'll have to wait about 15 hours and my bud around... 30 hours (using this tool). That's what I call devilish in case you wonder :rolleyes:
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You would probably hate the latest games then... GTA V weighing 60 gb!! Fallout 4 25 gb!!

Things move on... with every generation, more disk space is needed.
 
Woodee said:
with every generation, more disk space is needed.
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It is about bandwidth there ; that has not moved on for decades where I live... (and no it can not be let downloading during the night).

But maybe I have not understood one thing : does Steam need to re-download the .RFCMP I already have or can I just put them in a folder where Steam will find and install them without downloading ?
 
So after migrating but before allowing the install to start (otherwise it will install it all), I have to go to this page, click on each ISI workshop item in turn, and un-subscribe from the content I don't want?

Is that correct because that doesn't sound like fun.

Having not used Workshop before, is there any easy way to see what I'm subscribed to?
 
Is it still possible to download development builds throu Steam, like a few month ago?
If so, where to send feedback?
 
TJones said:
Is it still possible to download development builds throu Steam, like a few month ago?
If so, where to send feedback?
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It's even easier, just right click on rfactor2 for properties, then select the "beta" you want, and viola!
 
I buy rFactor 2 and was not steam ...... we can not force use steam, you can take legal action.........................regrettable, it is incomprehensible that force us to use steam
 
JUANCHIOOO said:
I buy rFactor 2 and was not steam ...... we can not force use steam, you can take legal action.........................regrettable, it is incomprehensible that force us to use steam
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You are not forced to use Steam lol. Use current build for as long as you wish, it will work perfectly fine, you just won't receive any further updates.
 
stonec said:
................ you just won't receive any further updates.
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I would like to know where this Information is coming from.

If that would be true ,it would be the most worse move of a Gamesoftware Developer, from whom i own a Game, i've ever seen.
 
redapg said:
I would like to know where this Information is coming from.

If that would be true ,it would be the most worse move of a Gamesoftware Developer, from whom i own a Game, i've ever seen.
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It comes from reading the first post. Reiza did exactly the same Steam move with GSCE/Automobilista 5 months ago.

Will I still be able to run rFactor 2 non-Steam and put up a non-Steam dedicated server in the future?
Yes, there are no plans to remove this feature.

What will happen to the non-Steam matchmaker?
It will continue into the future as well.
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Thanks for the Info stonec.
I didn't read it, because i'm normally not interested in any Steam-titled threads.

Now i have to wait for the Information how to get my money back, because one thing is fact: If i had known that rF2 will completely be moved to Steam, i never had bought it!!

Sorry that i have to say it but that's no good behaviour!
 
redapg said:
Thanks for the Info stonec.
I didn't read it, because i'm normally not interested in any Steam-titled threads.

Now i have to wait for the Information how to get my money back, because one thing is fact: If i had known that rF2 will completely be moved to Steam, i never had bought it!!

Sorry that i have to say it but that's no good behaviour!
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Ahem.... How long have you owned RF2?
 
redapg said:
Thanks for the Info stonec.
I didn't read it, because i'm normally not interested in any Steam-titled threads.

Now i have to wait for the Information how to get my money back, because one thing is fact: If i had known that rF2 will completely be moved to Steam, i never had bought it!!

Sorry that i have to say it but that's no good behaviour!
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Then stick to build 1084 :)
 
Ok bad news from isi i see so further updates can not be done if im understand ISI right only if i use steam?
Well so long that isi have worked on rf2 and many people by rf2 to have livesupport and now say this tsss.. weel RF2 still is not 100% a complete game and further updates we must use go true Steam that is ,,,,.
Steam take over all games soon and that system sucks i not like it and i think many users not like steam either.
i not wanna use rf2 no more and to isi i can say about pay back the money i not care isi can have i i have not start rf2 in 12 months becuse it still feels like a beta version off a game that was so hyped when rf2 get official.
think one more time isi about this steam thing i now rf1 still works without steam and with steam let RF2 works like that and not take away too people that have pay rf2 that all must convert it to use with steam.
RF2 is at is it much different and spread out in different folders then like rf1 is in ONE single folder where all files lay in. Stop messing around with users that have pay for the game RF2 now it is up to isi headquarter how to decide what to do with the game in the future remmber that isi when you say lifetime support and online
 
GCCRacer said:
Very, very disappointed.

As someone who supported RF2 early on when it was quite buggy and not at all full-featured...
As someone who has avoided Steam (after three bad issues with it on all three games I purchased... )...
As someone who chose RF2 over AC and pCARS not just but also because it's the only non-steam title...

This is a kick in the balls.

I will not let my control over my games be taken away by a 3rd Party service with Terms of Service that include amongst others the right to lock my account for no reason at all and remove my access to my games. If you chose to align with and force users to join such a venture then thanks for all the fun ISI, but I'll not purchase any other title from you ever again.
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Couldn't agree more with your words.

Steam is the biggest mistake you've made ISI
 
MarcG said:
It was clearly hinted at in the "Steam Q&A" thread from last October (over 6months ago):

Will a non-Steam version continue to be sold?
We will continue to sell a non-steam version for an undefined period. We may look to wind down new sales on the non-Steam version, but much like rF1, this is probably a long-term transition, if it happens at all.

I agree that those without Steam or those that don't ever want to install it have been hit the hardest, but like many if you gave Steam a go then you'll see it's not the Devil after all but actually a very good gaming platform. If you chose not to install it then fine, you'll still have RF2, it's not like it's going to be banished from your HDD!

I also agree with the few who bring up the large initial install (11gig iirc) and then having to unsubscribe to content and then manually going through the Install to delete the content you never wanted, that's a PITA and could've been handled better, but on the flip side I see ISIs reasoning for this, I don't agree with it but I understand why.
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Mark,

The QA back then said wind down sales, not stop updating.

If you read my first reply you see that I actually tried three different titles on Steam, at different times, and had three separate issues blocking me from enjoying the game.

The large unecessary workshop download is a perfect example of such an issue. I mostly run mod cars and tracks, so all that huge download is wasted time. A perfect example how the overbearing automation and drm control aspect of Steam gets in the way of actually enjoying a game. See also: srlf-reactivating automatic updates, no permanent offline mode, waiting for steam client updates, steam downtime, steam data leaks/hacks.

It is a software that just loves to get in the way, datamining customers while taking away control over my gaming experience and forcing barely legal ToS. I tried it, that is firsthand experience.
 
I'm sorry you've had bad experiences, I on the other hand have not, this move may suck for some people but others are happy, can't please everyone.
 
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