Freedom of will

Discussion in 'Wish Lists' started by Luiz De Boni, Jun 1, 2012.

  1. darthgus

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    This would be a great option for dedicated servers to have. ie the vmod would check all components but only the current track. (I think it should be an option however, ability to turn on/off this functionality at a server level)

    If the track changes, those people are booted out of the server, being informed they dont have the track.

    When they reconnect, the auto download would allow them to get the track and carry on.

    Good idea...
     
  2. Gjon Camaj

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    Along with the poorly named ModID and almost as bad Vmod, we should have released components from day one. We are planning on releasing our current car and track as components.

    An agreed upon glossary of terms would be a great idea (as long as I can have some re-dos), but it sounds like it would go the way of a world economic meeting.
     
  3. Slothman

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    ROFLMAO....love that last one :)

    As highlighted by Darthgus above from Maxym post...missed that..agreed...GREAT idea.
     
  4. Gjon Camaj

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    Actually.... once things are more stable, we want to provide an option where the install can happen automatically. This way if a mod group or league can facilitate getting the mod into the users packages folder, rF2 will do the rest. If you twist my arm, we can also add a field in the ModID for suggested server and maybe even race times, thereby closing the loop completely.

    A grid full of pre-installed racers and no one asking where things are or where they go... hows that for dreaming.... :)
     
  5. darthgus

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    I was under the assumption that this was also planned to be automatic?

    ie i should be able to come with a fresh install of rfactor 2, connect to a server and it downloads and installs everything for me - I shouldnt need to do anything outside of the game.
     
  6. Slothman

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    LOL...

    Gjon it was going to be a suggestion...but I thought....nahhhh....

    I dont have a problem with end users taking some responsibility for their own install. BUT I also see the need to make it as simple as possible as well. That decision is one I dont envy you making.

    a) Please the average user to give them some more control and responsibility keeping them happy.

    b) Please the minimilistic user and encourage use by "consoler racers" to facilitate the move accross.....but that might upset group a.....

    Not a choice I want to make :)

    BTW...console racers was used as a term to highlight that console racers are plug and play to get the game working, nothing to do with ability or anything else.
     
  7. Slothman

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    You can know as far as install from within the Rf2 UI...I think Gjon means...DO NOTHING. Auto install and download...no intervention required...at least thats how I read it :)
     
  8. darthgus

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    Yea - I mean the server if it is able to be connected to MUST have all the rfmods that have the components that make up the vmod that the server is running - there should be no reason to not have full auto dload and install of whatever is required..

    And is another reason why everything should be distributed at the component level :)
     
  9. Gjon Camaj

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    I was referring to leagues that set up their own content.
     
  10. Gjon Camaj

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    Actually the group I am more thinking about are people that are fans for motorsports but don't play games. They are willing to learn how to use a system but dont want to be computer experts. They should not have to know the difference between .7z and .msi
    I think getting more of these people into the community would benefit us all.
     
  11. Slothman

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    Yeh fair call. I would still group them in b thought...minimilstic user...no real PC experience, just want to plug and play kind of thing.
     
  12. John

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    Gjon, thank you for the interaction with us in this thread. You have really helped us by bringing clarity to so much that was causing us concern or even disquiet. I really do get excited with the possibilities you are building into this sim, and the knowledge that making vmods (or whatever they will eventually be called - a official glossary on the home page would be nice) will be so easy for us offline racers.

    I assume you will at the time RF2 goes Gold, re-release all your existing content as Components so that existing and prospective customers can download only what they want, when they want it. Those of us that want it all will download it all anyway, no doubting that at all.

    So, thank you for taking the time from your development schedule.
     
  13. Luc Devin

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    So we must move forward, we must know what the server runs as rotation, it will avoid to download if that does not interest us.
    Info bubble on the slopes of the server in rotation.
     
  14. MaXyM

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    I like Gjon's idea, to allow connecting server even if you have no all tracks rotating - just current one.
     
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    Nice, many thanks for the info.
     
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    Btw sorry if this is stupid question but - when we use the ingame button for downloading stuff, where does this data come from? Will it be downloaded from whoever created the game? Because many, if not most people have poor upload rate.. if 10 people wanted to download from him, it could take 24hours to get a mod..
     
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    Gjon said that primary will be downloaded from dedicated server. But they are also working on adding additional external link.
     
  18. Marek Lesniak

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    Then I'd like to twist your both arms (I'll be gentle though with the one you use more often ;-) ) to implement automatic vmod creation by dedicated server. That should complete the whole system and make it as easy as it is in rf 1
     
  19. Gjon Camaj

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    Good point. First at some point we may have to release all of our content for any number of reasons. As a separate issue, I'm sure will create a repository like we did for files in rF1. I hope its a little more elegant than before, but the point will be if you need one our our tracks or cars, you will be able to get it.
     
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    This, of course, is not true. I mod .sfx and "car" .cam files all the time, work perfectly online.
     

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