Seriously how long now please?

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  1. Gonzo

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    No matter how you do it, you do it wrong ;).

    If he had said next year people would be disappointed, if he said weeks rather months, and cannot do it in that time its also false. Each hour he spents here to reply, is missing in the development of rF2. The alpha of the gui was already there last simracing expo. I ve no idea if they show it on the expo in this year, but i think they will. Why not? Let them keep sure that the tech does not break anything for us, no one wants to race with something that might crash, because it has not been tested enough. There is a reason why most developers do not publish release-dates until they reached a high level, because you never know how long some parts might work, especially if you are working with a code base which is huge and not been written by yourself. They have to read code they did not write theirself, read, understand and change. Thats a very difficult task, this old ui tech has been build and evolved in the 90s as main part of the simulation itself. You cannot simple cut it out and place something new that easily. If you would code a simulation from scratch today you might develop a gui thats unindependent to the engine itself and write a communication protocol rest or network based to have that seperated.
     
  2. Remco Majoor

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    I think the problem with the ui is, is that it's a lot of background coding and fixing things from the ISI days. It's quite hard to show anything from that, as hardly anyone understands it, and it's just text.

    What i'd say might be a better step to do by s397, is actually start talking about stuff normal people understand. Like start discussions about what they think the competition system should become, let them give input. Maybe talk about it in a roadmap. This is just so people are talking about what's coming, rather than them talking about why it's not here yet.
     
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  3. Rui Santos

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    @Gonzo , like i've already said, it's taking too long, but they're not only doing a "UI" they're almost rewriting the software again! If you follow rF2 development you'll know that recently they had to face problems that weren't in their agenda, but my hopes are that we might get something after the Simracingexpo...
     
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    I hope we will have during the simexpo :

    UI + Competition system + Nürburgring ........

    I cross my fingers.

    For these 3 things, the wait was long.
     
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  5. Gonzo

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    Too long is better than no new gui. People put pressure on them to be more open, to publish release dates and they opend it, you re getting an update every 4 weeks now. And of course they are not rewriting the entire software again, way too much work to start from scratch. That shortly appeared issues and bugs are not the reason for a delayed gui. In software development you often cannot predict the effort until you reach the end of development. I am pretty sure they self want to show progress on the expo. Lets see and visit, i ll be there, you?
     
  6. Rui Santos

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    I wish, this time i'll cannot go, maybe next year...
     
  7. Claude H.

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    I think not that long

    Claude
     

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  8. Remco Majoor

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    that's just the nurburgring though. Nords might be a bit longer
     
  9. Claude H.

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    It’s a picture from the shared Rfactor 2 stand from this Year’s Simracing Expo found on Twitter.
    So since when Nürburgring is official content in Rfactor 2 ;)
    And every race that goes on the Nordschleife start’s on the Grand Prix track.

    Claude
     
  10. Remco Majoor

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    I know that much, but that picture doesn't show that they are using the nordschleiffe.
     
  11. memoNo1

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    I really hope that there is also a separate Nürburgring GP layout next to the NoS.
     
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  12. Remco Majoor

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    looking at the track map in that shot, there will be
     
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    Yes sure. Why are you concerned?
     
  14. memoNo1

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    Nothing is officially confirmed yet.
     
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    Sure. Last year as they annoucend the licensing they confirmed to bring all the layouts NOS, GP, VLN....Südschleife perhaps..it's covered with the license but they were not sure.

    The pic above also shows the GP-layout very clear.
     
  16. Remco Majoor

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    He might have missed that. Don't go hard on him because he missed something
     
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    It's OK. Then everything is great. Thanks mate. I joined RF2 in April 2019.
     
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    You're welcome :)
    Good to have you here!
     
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    I've just logged in to reply this one which could be arguably the most stupid answer I've ever read.

    There's a number of reasons certain people won't join a league, from lack of available time to any reason you can elaborate. Unnecessary to state something about public servers (empty rooms, crashers, etc).

    So if you can be faster than AIs (I doubt you can beat some 120% AI time in a perfectly well done AIW file for specific track by the way - you're not the avatar's guy) this would be not a reason to fix a broken feature that is there since Rfactor - the AI cars behavior on the draft?

    The Aidraftstickness AIW line seems to do nothing anymore and the lack of AI x Human and AI x AI overtakes is a deal breaker currently.

    I hope developers don't take this sort of BS answer in consideration.
     
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  20. Rui Santos

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    Not sure if you already heard about irony...

    Thinking you just logged in to make serious post about a non-question makes me think your life is really boring :D

    And yes, with some cars i can beat AI at 120% ;)

    And of course we need better AI, just not a priority...

    Oh, and i respect a lot your work ;)
     
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