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Tim Wheatley said:
Our tracks should default to a weather setup appropriate for races there.
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Not sure this is the place to post this, but there is what seems to be a small bug with the default weather. The ISI tracks do have nice default weather settings, but if you change track the weather always defaults back to perfectly clear. Even switching back to another ISI track will do this and you have to switch the "quick weather settings" to something else, then back to default for it to work correctly (if that makes sense :rolleyes: ).

I need to test this again to see exactly what happens, but for sure, I need to flick between quick weather options, to get the track default to appear sometimes.
 
Well "Clear" doesn't have to mean Zero Clouds Possible. Just clouds are clouds. Not rain clouds or overcast. Just pretty clouds on a clear day.
 
GTrFreak said:
Yea I drive in light overcast conditions myself pretty often. I like the change in lighting when some clouds cast shadows over the track. At indy, I drove on the back straight in sunny conditions while just half a lap later the sun and dark shadows were gone... So dynamic, so real-life, so immersive :)
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If you like the way it works, then I guess you haven't seen a proper Sun occlusion, yet :)
Personally I don't like how it's done. If some cloud casts shadow over part of the track, I'd like to see it this way, not have lighting settings change for entire world simultaneously.

There's a difference between:
- driving from dark side of the track to the bright one
- driving on a track that goes from dark to bright everywhere at once


I find current effect very misleading - may trick you into believing it's going to rain. There's really no way of telling the difference. Yesterday I've spent a great deal of time driving Nissan at Portugal at different conditions and I've found visual representation of weather very misleading. There's just no way I could refer to what graphics engine was doing.


First indication of rain for me was dense water spray suddenly appearing in my rear mirror - and I was at the hairpin when that happened (!). "Is it raining?" - I thought. Had to look closely to notice raindrops. Next indication was decreased grip. Barely visible reflections on the road was the final indication of rain - long after grip levels dropped. I really needed to stop the car and look around to notice reflections.. The visibility was still excellent. I could see a bit of mist, but only at some distance.

How it should be? First - we need to see the rain coming - rain clouds getting closer or building up above. Next - we should see visibility dropping where rain is and raindrops if we are close enough. Third - we should see road getting wet - by noticing higher reflectivity (especially sky reflection should be obvious). And this is when grip levels should start to drop and water spray appear ( but it should not just kick-in like V-Tec ;) ).


Considering that grip levels dropped before I could finish a lap... Well - let's just say I will not participate in leagues that use variable weather in rF2 at it's current form as race result could be determined where rain caught you (beginning or end of lap).
Right now it starts to rain out of nowhere and real road gets wet quickly, so you may not make it to the pits on your slicks. Having no other indication of incoming rain apart from change in lighting condition and clouds, you're pretty much left with no information. Especially that Sun occlusion effect can look exactly the same as beginning of rain.


While I don't expect anyone to make a fancy, life-like looking sky and clouds for me or some nice raindrops on cars, I do expect visual cues to carry some basic information. While I can sit in any of ISI's cars and instantly understand it's physics, I can't make anything out of ISI's environmental effects.



By the way - thanks everyone for posting IMS and DW12 videos - at least I got to have a glimpse while still being at work :) But now I'm off to try it out myself :) Cheers.
 
ZeosPantera said:
Well "Clear" doesn't have to mean Zero Clouds Possible. Just clouds are clouds. Not rain clouds or overcast. Just pretty clouds on a clear day.
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Yeah I wasn't really referring to the clouds specifically. More that the icons for the weather settings all return to sunny and indeed if I go to track, that is what it loads, even though the simple weather preset still says "default". Just tested again... first time I fired rF2 today, last track/car were ISI's and the weather was set for sunny at all times just now, even though the default for indy has some light/medium cloud cover (going by the icons for the weather in the race settings screen). So clicked the simple weather setting away from default, then back to default and voila!

Anyway, sorry for the wholly confusing OT... back to the videos. :)
 
Are volumetric clouds not possible with rF2 Tuttle or anyone from ISI? I mean i play alot of ARMA3 and it seems to simulate alot of the same stuff like rF2, actually it has full dynamic day/night transitions and weather but has brilliant looking skys with the clouds. I agree with alot here the rF2 skys now look really very average, clouds inpaticular do look poor.

 
FONismo said:
Are volumetric clouds not possible with rF2 Tuttle or anyone from ISI? I mean i play alot of ARMA3 and it seems to simulate alot of the same stuff like rF2, actually it has full dynamic day/night transitions and weather but has brilliant looking skys with the clouds. I agree with alot here the rF2 skys now look really very average, clouds inpaticular do look poor.

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Hell yea! ArmA3 has the best clouds I have ever seen in a game. But aren't the clouds a third party software? Some guys who specialized in this kind of thing, I believe. Can't remember their company name.

What's even more important than clouds, at least to me, is sparks! Lots of sparks for when you touch the road with the chassis of your car. That will look pretty awesome in slomo. :) Just saying. :cool:
 
My first impressions of Indianapolis Motor Speedway

Enjoy! :cool:

 
Tuttle said:
I can't spoil to much but we're still working on the weather/light engine. :)
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Interesting, thanks :)

Racefreak1976 said:
Enjoy! :cool:

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Good job overall mate. Not sure highlighting the car jumping in the air like that is a great idea but otherwise shading looks really nice at times on this model. Nice realistic looking reflections with the correct lighting. Other shots it just looks cartoony again. It's still so inconsistent graphically. Good video though

Also, I don't get these wet looking like track reflections. I see them on Loch Drummond aswell, Is it a bug or purposely there?
 
FONismo said:
Good job overall mate. Not sure highlighting the car jumping in the air like that is a great idea but otherwise shading looks really nice at times on this model. Nice realistic looking reflections with the correct lighting. Other shots it just looks cartoony again. It's still so inconsistent graphically. Good video though
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True. I just recently discovered the color corrector in Sony Vegas but only used it in one clip here to be perfectly honest. Besides, I'm not yet very familiar with how it works. Thanks for the comment, bro. In fact, I started making this kind of videos because of your videos. ;) It's been quite a looong learning process. Yet, there is still so much to learn.
 
Racefreak1976 said:
True. I just recently discovered the color corrector in Sony Vegas but only used it in one clip here to be perfectly honest. Besides, I'm not yet very familiar with how it works. Thanks for the comment, bro. In fact, I started making this kind of videos because of your videos. ;) It's been quite a looong learning process. Yet, there is still so much to learn.
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Yes sorry i meant maybe wasn't good to show that clip of the car jumping when i said highlighting, dunno just looks weird, the way the tyre deforms etc when it comes down looks silly and the car before looks odd on the curb. I didn't mean anything you have done badly with editing.

Rich Goodwin said:
An issue they know about. Iirc Tim said something about it with the release of Indy.



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Ok thanks, looks weird
 
I didn't take it as an offense. You're right about the tyre deformation. That's why I said, I wish there were some sparks. Then I would have used another angle.

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Ales gives me the permission to make this video pubblic

Trust me, you will love this car, just brillante!(STILL wip, no MOTEC and driver)
 
FONismo said:
Good job overall mate. Not sure highlighting the car jumping in the air like that is a great idea
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Andretti went over the shallowest part and did this. :)

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