Announcing Competition System Season 1

Hello sim racers!

Today, we have the pleasure of announcing a new way of working within the rFactor 2 Competition System - developed to help you get the most from our daily racing activities.

You can find out all you need to know about the announcement on the link below:
https://www.studio-397.com/2022/02/announcing-competition-system-season-1/



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Yes, all these announcements are very good, but there are still things like going out to the track for a race and the ffb turned off, you have to go out to the box and return to the track to recover it, if it happens to you at the start, then it's over before start. We are still like this, but with a new interface.
 
Yes, all these announcements are very good, but there are still things like going out to the track for a race and the ffb turned off, you have to go out to the box and return to the track to recover it, if it happens to you at the start, then it's over before start. We are still like this, but with a new interface.
There is a assignment for ffb reset in game in the menu.
 
Yes, all these announcements are very good, but there are still things like going out to the track for a race and the ffb turned off, you have to go out to the box and return to the track to recover it, if it happens to you at the start, then it's over before start. We are still like this, but with a new interface.

If they wait to fix all bugs before using the CS, it'll never happen.

Hopefully extra numbers and focus on the issues will expedite the fixes.
 
S397 are free to do what they want. But if they want to be successful in either the short or long term, they have to start looking at the tactical decisions they are making, and the criteria with which they are making them.

There are two really big issues with the CS right now: first, to run a series you need all the content from all events in that series, to run any given event; second, there is a need to own all the content from any given event e.g. all GT3 cars plus the track, not just the specific car you wish to drive. These issues are common to ALL sims. And every single one of them, even those on Steam, have overcome them. iRacing had the latter restriction, and it was important enough to them to correct it. Why would that not apply here? It's S397s decision to utilize the Steam software in such a way that you have to own everything. And there is no sim, anywhere, that has ever had the first restriction - except insofar as you buy full packs to participate, rather than individual pieces.

Further, at the current time iRacing are the only ones who charge a subscription. You can do organized online racing on most of the others without paying for servers. It's irrelevant to this issue.

What are the objectives for the CS? Well, its to provide a place for their players to all compete. If the goal is to grow this as large as you can (and why wouldn't it be), doubling down on feature limitations isn't the way to do it. S397 is best known for its endurance sportscar racing. But IndyCar is an important and brand new avenue to explore, and I don't see a reason why you wouldn't want to make its start in life as successful as possible. The CS have been pretty much a failure since its debut. Not only does it have the very severe limitations outlined above, they continue to make bad choices about the structure of the competitions they put up. That might have been OK when it was part of an alpha test to even get something at all to work, but it isn't when you are trying to grow it. Eventually they have come to the realization that the iRacing dev model of quarterly releases is better than any other, after fighting it. Now, they realize the CS system is best with quarterly seasons with weekly rotating series, if you want to build a committed base. The types we've seen - rotating tracks each day with a series lasting a week, etc. etc. - work to test a capability. But you don't build a committed audience with it. It's an arrive-and-drive crashfest, random racing without really any structure. So now you decide you do want a structure. But then, you repeat the errors you already made before. It also still lacks features for matchmaking, like ratings. And ability to look up results.

If you want to be successful, you need to analyze whether the tactical decisions you are making best position yourselves to maximize success. You're not doing that. You're also not fixing the underlying fundamental problems your software has, that none of your comeptitors have. There's multi-million dollar investors watching now.

(replying here because this really isn't specific to the Indycar series)

@burgesjl re: the part of the quote above I've put in bold - it's not S397's decision for the game to force you to have/own all content used in a race. That's since Day 1 of rF2, nothing to do with Steam, and nothing to do with S397. You can't have these opinionated posts if you're going to get things wrong.

You're giving your opinion on what would be best. Ok, that's fine. That doesn't make it true, and it doesn't mean they have to do it. You want to enter a CS series? You need all tracks in the series. You want to enter a race? You need all cars in that race. Done. Your choice, take it or leave it.

How you feel about it is up to you, but no one's forcing you or anyone else to take part. Is that the best option for S397 to take? Well, none of us know for sure, and the fact they're continuing to do it probably says something about either what they think (as the actual stakeholders) or the work they can see it would take to make it work another way.
 
(replying here because this really isn't specific to the Indycar series)

@burgesjl re: the part of the quote above I've put in bold - it's not S397's decision for the game to force you to have/own all content used in a race. That's since Day 1 of rF2, nothing to do with Steam, and nothing to do with S397. You can't have these opinionated posts if you're going to get things wrong.

You're giving your opinion on what would be best. Ok, that's fine. That doesn't make it true, and it doesn't mean they have to do it. You want to enter a CS series? You need all tracks in the series. You want to enter a race? You need all cars in that race. Done. Your choice, take it or leave it.

How you feel about it is up to you, but no one's forcing you or anyone else to take part. Is that the best option for S397 to take? Well, none of us know for sure, and the fact they're continuing to do it probably says something about either what they think (as the actual stakeholders) or the work they can see it would take to make it work another way.

Nope, you are completely wrong. The issue is directly with the use of the Steam Content mechanism. There is not a way for them to download content to your PC, but not have it drivable. They would have to put a solution on top of that to verify, other than what Steam provides them. This is in fact what all the other developers have done, but S397 have not; and they also use the DLC mechanism, which again S397 (or ISI before them) decided not to use. This has been admitted by Marcel.

So, yes, given the restrictions in place and the choices of content they've made, I'm going to leave it and continue with iRacing as I have for 12+ years without these issues, and 100,000+ current subscribers. How many do S397 have again?
 
Nope, you are completely wrong. The issue is directly with the use of the Steam Content mechanism. There is not a way for them to download content to your PC, but not have it drivable. They would have to put a solution on top of that to verify, other than what Steam provides them. This is in fact what all the other developers have done, but S397 have not; and they also use the DLC mechanism, which again S397 (or ISI before them) decided not to use. This has been admitted by Marcel.

So, yes, given the restrictions in place and the choices of content they've made, I'm going to leave it and continue with iRacing as I have for 12+ years without these issues, and 100,000+ current subscribers. How many do S397 have again?

It's incredible. Yoy pay for every single track, every single car you use in iRacing (except the content included in the subscription), you pay a subscription as well, and you complain because you have to pay for ONE circuit of six which are in the Serie. Crazy.

So, how do you think these S397 guys earn a salary every month? By donations?
 
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