Quick impressions from a pro driver.

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  1. caravan_driver

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    Hes been reviewing some racing games.
    He changes no settings at all in the game for the video. Thats tricky for RF2 that has light rubber as default track state. In the AC video he was max track grip.
    The car has too much oversteer.
     
  2. Amanda Santini

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    He has both valid and invalid points, regardless of the simulator and/or being a pro driver.

    I always take the opinions of "pros" with a very large amount of salt since you can put two professional drivers in the same car and they'll both have different opinions on how it feels, drives, sounds, and whatnot.

    First point I think is a valid one: no Nordschleife. ISI's fault, but still a shame it's not in the base game. S397 should include that ASAP.

    Then the display: that got me too. No lap times, the display fonts look horrible. And I'm adding my own additional complain here = no split times on any rF2 car, no even on the newest ones. Also, no way to change the display info, instead we must change only the "LCD mode" which is a HUD. I hate HUD's, we should be able to change the car's display information.
    And also the obvious engine lights being broken too.

    Track seems to be OK according to him, and it is. Though not laser scanned AFAIK, still a very accurate representation of it.

    Setup wise I think he's right, it's too oversteery, although I'm surprised I can manage that way better than him. And IMO the "oversteeryness" is a trend on S397 GT3 cars, perhaps the Bentley being an exception.

    Soundwise I think it's too boring, all cars sound robotic, lifeless, and too soft. He did say sound is exactly the same as the real car but perhaps he's referring to the engine rev notes, which is correct. Perhaps since I'm a musician and sound engineer I'm disappointed with the sound of all GT3 Pack cars in regards to bass, piston explosions, environment, etc.
     
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    Pretty irrelevant , driving in practise ,solo with default set in what isn’t really a good example of rf2 cars on a green track at what is regarded as a lifeless track .. score his review 6/10 at best
     
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    I do not understand English spoken so I can not value what he says, but I hope he will be a bit better as a professional driver than as a virtual driver.
     
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  5. Ari Antero

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    What an irrelevant review. I own every sim there is and I don`t rate any of them based to default FFB and setup. If car has oversteer/understeer it is the lesson number one regarding setups how to fix it. This review is a joke and the guy is driving like my mother who is soon 90 years old ;)
     
  6. avenger82

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    Hi,


    It's nice to have review from pro driver. Unfortunately it seems he just installed( or haven't played) rF2 after a long time. For instance he didn't even know how to display lap times.
    Ah and he also reviewed iRacing an pCars and has plan for more.
     
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  7. mesfigas

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    thats the second video of the same guy promoting himself and not really doing a good review.
    there are better reviews on youtube and the fact that they are mades by non pros makes non difference.
    when you load rf2 you load decent physics...... cant say the same for other games.
     
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    sorry i meant second post for the same guy not second video...sorry.
     
  9. avenger82

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    @mesfigas
    Can you please post links to these reviews?
    I didn't see someone else also posted link to the same video.
     
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  10. mesfigas

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    the review from the pro starts by saying that the last time that the game was the best 10 years ago but he dont know how it is going now.
    he also drives a few laps and compares it to the real car that he test or drives in real track.
    personally for he test a not good car ( Merchendes gt3) to review Rf2
    if you need to watch better video for reviewing rf2 search the youtube.
     
  11. Will Mazeo

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    Real race car driver talks about how the car he drives in real life is simulated in the game.
    "Non professionals" that never drove the real thing can do a better review of the car than the dude that get paid to do it IRL.
    Ok.
     
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  12. patchedupdemon

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    I watched the one on iracing that was linked on their forum and replied to it by saying.

    Not very informative,all he said was the braking points were spot on,and I got the usual treatment from the resident forum dwellers on their lol
     
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    You need someone, who's an accomplished driver AND more than just a casual sim-driver. I would trust Dale Earnhardt Jr's review of how a Nascar level car performs because he has spent many years doing both. I would be leery of a guy who comes into a non-familiar sim enviroment and compare his real world driving to the sim.
    I saw a vid of a real driving using VR in a GT3 car and the comments basically focused on how much he checked his mirrors. {at least the ones I remember} The process of comparing sims to real world probably should be done by committee, we need more input from different drivers and them compile them. One guy, one car, I dunno.
     
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    I've not bothered to watch the video, but the premise is bad from the start: you can't fire un a software, use it without any tweaking of the options to suit your hardware or personal tastes and the call it a comparison. Comparisons and review should be approached with a method, I understand the not everyone has a scientific thinking, but you can't do that without a criteria.
     
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    what worries me if someone like Nicki Thiim (experienced sim racer) turns around and says rf2 isn't like real life - how would you guys react then? Would you just negate his opinion too?

    Im not saying this guy is 100% correct but out of all of us, these guys racing these things in real life, have the only TRUTHFUL opinion as to realism - whether it be bad or good. RF2 isn't for everyone, and regarding RF2 accessibility then maybe we should come away using the negatives as a guide on how to improve rf2, not just look through tinted glasses :)
     
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    My main problem with this is the premise of real race driver reviews “insert here”
    Yet fails to talk about physics or tyre models,he just gives a few statements about braking points and the default setups.

    Now Nikki is the man,and he along with two others have said the physics and tyre model,braking characteristics of iracing,and I quote here,are shit.

    If they were to come here and say the same,I’d listen and say ok thanks for clarifying,because for one I’m not a real race driver,never driven any of these they do,so I’d take their opinion as truthful and fact.

    I keep asking Nikki to try out rf2 for this very reason,I want to know a pros thoughts on this games physics and tyre model

    I got a reply from him “copy copy,will do soon”
    So it will be interesting either way his opinion falls
     
  17. LokiD

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    keep on asking him i would love that to :)
     
  18. patchedupdemon

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    Edited post above,I got a reply and he said he would try it out soon.

    I’d take his word over many others because I like his style,he don’t give a damn about hurting people’s feelings,and isn’t sponsored by any of the games,plus the guy is funny as hell
     
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  19. LokiD

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    i think its just good to see real life drivers even looking into these sims thanks to youtube etc. I suppose they cant go into that much detail regarding tyre models etc as they probably dont know what goes into them. All i want to know that it feels like 80% of the real thing! real life most of the feedback from the car you cant replicate so you will never get a 100% feeling sim.
     
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  20. patchedupdemon

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    By tyre model and physics I just meant the feel of them,like you said,especially over limit handling is what I mainly would like to know whichever sim feels most realistic
     

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