Track surface here too. I think it's best to get that finalised and then move on to the scenery and track furniture.
That shouldn't be too hard as I've been focusing on that most of all. I was moving towards more of a functional release but if you are only interested in the race surface for now to get a feel for the track, that is okay too. I don't know how the majority will react to track which floats in midair and a complete lack of trees and terrain outside the guardrails If that is okay with you guys, and no other (AIW) functionality is required for now I think I can do a release pretty soon. There is loads of texturing tweaks to be done but those have nothing to do with how it drives. I'll see what other people say and if they concur I'll try and get something out as quick as possible. If it's indeed only the race surface you can be bothered with at this point, which is understandable, then in theory it should be a matter of days. I'm just trying to manage expectations a bit
wgeuze, I can guarantee that you will not be tarred, feathered and ran out of town in a wheel barrow.
It would be good to see the surface finalised but also a trip to drive whilst it`s floating in mid air with nothing else around Go for it wgeuze.
That is settled then. I've worked on the road surface yesterday, not much to be done aside from tweaking the materials. For example I feel the normal map is too strong and I'm getting some obvious tiling patterns as a result. Also, some questions: - There is a distinct difference between viewer.exe and devmode. Everything in Devmode seems washed out or very dark, what could cause this difference? - Is the AIW portion bugged of the latest build? Last time I checked I got nice big cross icons on the points of the paths I'd driven, but now they are barely visible flat lines, almost like joints in 3dsmax. I'll spend the rest of the week tweaking the current textures a bit and making sure there is a starting line and a grid. Providing all the garages and pit positions should at least allow for some testing through all types of sessions. I wouldn't recommend actually racing it online or anything though. A friday evening release is looking quite possible right now. Running the Renault 3.5 on it, even on green conditions, wow, you can lap these very very fast around the track! I might do a test this evening to see how it looks in singleplayer, and to see how it drives with the Camaro Nightmares... I worked as a tester for Nintendo and guess what game I worked on for a couple of months Rainbow track and that track in space, I curse theeee!!! edit: Now I think of it, the track can do with some collision as well, none of the guardrails or walls have it I believe edit2: Can't believe I'm almost working a year on this... you wouldn't tell it looking at the track though... Ah well, spare time, what are you going to do about it..
Trying to atleast get it into singleplayer, it worked a while ago, but now rF2 crashes to desktop at 95% of loading.. The trace.txt: Code: TRACE LEVEL = 10 tracelog.cpp 139: Command line: "+path=".." +hash=####HIDDEN#### trace=10" main.cpp 236: FPU=0x0009001f game.cpp 1693: Entered Game::Enter() osman.cpp 727: Entered OSMan::Enter() plrfile.cpp 2895: Entered PlayerFile::Enter() plrfile.cpp 2035: Attempting to save to D:\rFactor2\UserData\player\player.TMP plrfile.cpp 2068: Retcode: 0 for renaming to D:\rFactor2\UserData\player\player.PLR hwinput.cpp 7535: Entered HWInput::Enter() hwinput.cpp 7536: HKL=0xf0010409 vidman.cpp 1726: Entered VidMan::Enter() specialfx.cp 3452: Entered SpecialFX::Enter() dynman.cpp 711: Entered DynMan::Enter() sound.cpp 1332: Entered Sound::Enter() onscreen.cpp 3507: Entered OnScreen::Enter() game.cpp 1748: Entered Game::Setup() hwinput.cpp 7614: Entered HWInput::Setup() hwinput.cpp 646: No device, not reading keyboard options.cpp 4815: Entered Options::Setup() O_AppObj.cpp 2795: Initiate options object creation O_OSC.cpp 2945: Entered Options_OSC_Reader::ReadOSC() vidman.cpp 1319: Trying to Play Bink File: D:\rFactor2\Installed\MovieFiles\ISILogo.bik MovieMan.cpp 120: Error locating video file D:\RFACTOR2\INSTALLED\MOVIEFILES\ISILOGO.BIK MovieMan.cpp 120: Error locating video file D:\RFACTOR2\INSTALLED\MOVIEFILES\ISILOGO.BIK vidman.cpp 1319: Trying to Play Bink File: D:\rFactor2\Installed\MovieFiles\ALL_TRACKS_AND_CARS_10.bik MovieMan.cpp 120: Error locating video file D:\RFACTOR2\INSTALLED\MOVIEFILES\ALL_TRACKS_AND_CARS_10.BIK MovieMan.cpp 120: Error locating video file D:\RFACTOR2\INSTALLED\MOVIEFILES\ALL_TRACKS_AND_CARS_10.BIK vidman.cpp 1319: Trying to Play Bink File: D:\rFactor2\Installed\MovieFiles\PreGame.bik MovieMan.cpp 120: Error locating video file D:\RFACTOR2\INSTALLED\MOVIEFILES\PREGAME.BIK MovieMan.cpp 120: Error locating video file D:\RFACTOR2\INSTALLED\MOVIEFILES\PREGAME.BIK tire_manager 1370: Non-existent tire brand "" tire_manager 1370: Non-existent tire brand "" O_OSC.cpp 3125: Exited Options_OSC_Reader::ReadOSC() O_AppObj.cpp 2887: Options object creation successful specialfx.cp 3458: Entered SpecialFX::Setup() steward.cpp 8290: Entered Steward::Setup() dynman.cpp 751: Entered DynMan::Setup() sound.cpp 1348: Entered Sound::Setup() render.cpp 1283: Entered Render::Setup() onscreen.cpp 3513: Entered OnScreen::Setup() plrfile.cpp 2935: Entered PlayerFile::Setup() plrfile.cpp 2035: Attempting to save to D:\rFactor2\UserData\player\player.TMP plrfile.cpp 2068: Retcode: 0 for renaming to D:\rFactor2\UserData\player\player.PLR game.cpp 1785: Entered Game::Init() game.cpp 1789: got past replayman init vidman.cpp 1961: Entered VidMan::Init() ai_db.cpp 3219: Entered AIDatabase::Init() steward.cpp 8307: Entered Steward::Init() steward.cpp 2487: Could not find glow "CAUTIONGLOWGLOW_01" steward.cpp 2487: Could not find glow "CAUTIONGLOW_01" hwinput.cpp 7657: Entered HWInput::Init() specialfx.cp 3564: Entered SpecialFX::Init() dynman.cpp 762: Entered DynMan::Init() The only clue are the two lines about cautionglow_01, but could that really be a showstopper? And if so, why can I load the track in devmode? Another strange thing since messing with the AIW, I can't drive more than 2 or 3 laps without Devmode crashing to desktop as well while working with AIW stuff. It's a good thing I'm testing this beforehand, because right now no matter what I do, it's not working in singleplayer.. edit: I'll do some visual tweaks, the more I look at the road texture the more I hate it, tiles way too obvious, but don't want to end up with an out of scale road texture either... RealRoad is actualy working on the grasscrete as well now, it still has a temporary normal material in v0.04 which I didn't realise was the case. I'll just might do a custom racegroove texture for both the road and kerbs/grasscrete while I'm at it to try and improve the road. Hopefully I can get the track to work in singleplayer before Saturday otherwise it'll take longer obviously. edit2: Forgot to mention, on a totally green track I did a 1:42.xxx with the Corvette. I imagine on a fully rubbered in track and a good setup, the 1.:26.xxx I saw in an iRacing video is very much possible on my version of this circuit. Hopefully this means it's pretty close to the real thing! edit3: Could the entire thing be a faulty AIW issue? I might redo the AIW entirely and see if the problem persists.
Thanks JKA I will check it out. What is also something to try is to split up the main track surface into parts, maybe that will help as well as it is getting quite big I fixed the tiling on the road and I'm more happy with it now, time to try and redo the AIW, I really hope that helps. If that doesn't, I simply don't know what will to be honest :X Here is the updated road texture and now working realroad on the grasscrete (still stock racegroove, I'll stick to problem solving for now) edit: Still no luck, getting not a single error message doesn't really help, and trace.txt isn't all that clear either... I'll try removing all the lights next time, see if that works, only clue left!
Before tearing your scene apart... Do AIW again from scratch. Copy your original to safe place and make simple AIW for testing purposes (main path, pitpath with branches and one garage spot). AIW problems rarely leave any trace to the logs. Also, do you have all x-planes setup correctly? Cheers!
That is the problem, that is exactly what I did, and I've been hotlapping with 4 AI cars in Devmode as well. Made a light_rubber.rrbin while I was at it. I didn't have the pitpath last time around, maybe that is a prerequisite that must be met next to a main and fast path for a track to function. The other I can think of is elimination, start with only the road and work my way down in the list.. That'll be tedious though.. Don't count on anything for friday :X
I could help with AIW probably if track geometry, trackside land and armcos (or placeholders limiting flyoffs of the track) are set.
Thanks for the offer. The AIW is so basic right now, there's just nothing which can go wrong really, it has: 4 garages 2 pit positions 4 grid positions main path fast path pitlane path I'm starting to think I am doing something wrong in the packaging process.. Someone else offered me to take a look yesterday so he has the latest files at this time. edit: Your post does remind me I forgot to do any collisions so far, will do that today
It works, thanks to Jka! In my inexperience, I included references to the package MAS file in the scn, which made sense to me somehow... I understand now that that is causing the issue cause those MAS files aren't in the track, the track is in the MAS files. Rookie mistake And yes, the Camaro drives wonderfully on this track Anyway.. Thanks to this issue, I will not make the deadline I set for myself so I am moving it to next week.
Thanks tjc, really had some fun racing the AI in the Camaro's, awesome car. I think between the 370z and that one there can be quite some cool races to be had Anyway, I'll get some more things going now, at least a full grid and collision for all the walls and guardrails. When there is time left I can see about some minor things but that will be trivial. As it is now, I need to re-import some things but after that, if all else fails, I will just upload that for you guys to check out.
I got the maximum width of that specific corner from a video which feature some volvo360's, where I believe they were almost as wide as the widest piece of kerb on that corner. If you have better reference, I'd really like to have it edit: This is the same corner and position almost, I also noticed I completely forgot to place the anti-cutting parts
Small update of the situation: - Added a full grid now - Pacecar pitspots - Pitlane lines - Anti cut turtles added in 2nd chicane, also made them all a hair higher Hopefully this grants a more complete package so it can be raced/tested better. The pitlane however is kicking my ass a bit as I discovered it's a bit off, or my lines are off, so that takes some time to double check and fix. If anything I can shift some lines 75cm* or so and that should solve the issue. It's not much, but once I noticed I just can't ignore it any longer... Depending on the pitlane, which will be a bit rough around the edges, I think a release this week is still possible. If I don't make it, because of the discovered issue with the pitlane, I'll postpone a week, but that is really all I should need. Despite it being 'only' being an alpha, it does make sense to be able to properly drive through the pitlane for now. IF anything else will happen, an 'emergency' alpha 0.1 version is already uploaded to prevent disappointment * as always the problem with relatively low res google earth/bing images, measurements for small objects and sections can be quite off due to their image processing thingy. Measure a white line anywhere on a track and it can come up as 50 centimeters wide sometimes... ** Having driven some more in singleplayer with my older working build, I must say, for slower cars, this layout is great. Clio, Megane, Camaro, Corvette, can't wait to race it! Even against my own AI I had fun Everything up from a Formula Renault 3.5 is going to be boring sadly edit: Fixed the issue with the pitlane, it was indeed almost a meter short in width Now tomorrow I'll have to map that thing and create a new texture for the painted drain, and finish two other textures before Thursday evening. That's going to be tight :X This is the rough version of it now, white lines are done, but the red part, the drain, is going to be a seperate texture. Also need to make sure it works with realroad as well ^^
