What Fps are you getting with that setup if I might ask? Shame the OC is not helping the low fps sections ... I still think a strong cpu is a plus for games that are doing a lot of physics and simulation type calculations, less so for the CODs of the world and that is where the overall system performance might be a bigger aspect to "sim" games. Nice work sticking with it Ricknau. I haven't touched mine since my last 3 day restoration... lol
Ok, did lots of testing today out of curiosity. Here are some test results that link back to this thread: http://isiforums.net/f/showthread.p...ected-Need-help-from-680-770-780-Titan-owners For me OC on a 3570k in this game makes no difference in general, track to track its a bit different, but who cares; even at 45FPS its very smooth and there is no indication of input lag. Tests: 1. Megane at Mills Outer Loop C - with 24AI 2. Megane at Mills Outer Loop C - no AI 3. Modern F2 at Silverstone - no AI Results: Gigabyte Z77X-UD3H i5 3570k@4.4GHz 16GB hyper-x red @ 1600MHz EVGA GTX770SC with ACX cooler at 1189MHz 1920x1080 Everything on and max with 6xAA Test 1 Avg: 61.266 - Min: 48 - Max: 77 Test 2 Avg: 92.071 - Min: 71 - Max: 116 Test 3 Avg: 88.775 - Min: 73 - Max: 106 2560x1440 Everything on and max with 3xAA Test 1 Avg: 54.642 - Min: 42 - Max: 67 Test 2 Avg: 80.468 - Min: 64 - Max: 99 Test 3 Avg: 78.339 - Min: 67 - Max: 91 i5 3570k@3.4GHz, 3.8GHz turbo 16GB hyper-x red @ 1600MHz EVGA GTX770SC with ACX cooler at 1189MHz 1920x1080 Everything on and max with 6xAA Test 1 Avg: 56.498 - Min: 45 - Max: 75 Test 2 Avg: 94.318 - Min: 73 - Max: 119 Test 3 Avg: 90.340 - Min: 74 - Max: 113 2560x1440 Everything on and max with 3xAA Test 1 Avg: 50.779 - Min: 40 - Max: 62 Test 2 Avg: 80.653 - Min: 64 - Max: 99 Test 3 Avg: 76.354 - Min: 62 - Max: 90
Great test... Thanks for posting that... very interesting! I'm surprised the OC had such a minimal adjustment. I have a busy few days but I would like to do a similar test on my pc... Ill post it if I get a chance
Now run tests low quality low resolution It will make everything that much clearer. LOPL How do you get more fps at a lower clock speed in Test 2 ? Exactly what I said about low res tests. ? lol
Probably the 3570k is fast enough at stock speed to not limit FPS in any way. It's barely used to run the game, so a faster clock should make no difference. From reviews its roughly 10% faster than the 2500k at a given clock, so ~4.18 GHz. I am surprised at just how much you overclock helps, if you have lowered some graphics settings maybe thats why??? Or you just have your system running great, and I am then probably missing something else to unlock more FPS with the OC. By the way, CPU runs at ~53/63 deg for stock/OC (1.26V) settings with a basic H70 watercooler. 770 runs at 50 deg, 1189MHz at all times, and power consumption of only 63%. I have briefly tried to OC the 770 further with the EVGA utility, but on 3 tries to bump over 1200MHz and a high power target it ran with lower power use???
I went ahead and bought a new cooler, Xigmatek Gaia model. Very impressive cooling for sub $25! Dropped my temps from 80s (only hit that momentarily) to mid 60s. Did a bios overclock like DD suggested. Runs well and cool at 4.3GHz, up from 3.6GHz. Not too interested in eeking out another 0.2GHz, especially since it gained me nothing in FPS. I was surprised. But then I OC'd my MSI GTX560-448. It's a "twin frozr III" which I presume means it can really stay cool with stock dual fans. Used Afterburner to bump it up to 925Mhz (25% increase) for the core clock and 2150MHz (10% increase) on the mem clock. Man, that made a difference! That gave me roughly a 15-20% increase in FPS. Suweeet! With fan setting I've chosen the GPU never goes above 72C. I guess now I'll hold off on a new card purchase and see how things unfold in the rF2 graphics development saga. Edit: some of my cooling gains can probably be attributed to applying new heat sink compound. The old stuff was dry and caked. Are you supposed to renew that stuff every so often?
It is not a bad idea to have a look at the heat transfer compound everyone once in a while Ricknau. I generally look at mine about once every 3 to 4 months to be sure it all still looks good.
Yes most of the thermal paste comes with cheaper HS/F is pretty average. Get a tube of AS5 and some cleaner. http://www.arcticsilver.com/as5.htm http://www.arcticsilver.com/arcticlean.htm It can be worth 1-5 degrees over average TM. It also helps heat transfer so your processor cools faster. Poor paste job can cost you 10C or more.
Say what !!! This is roughly the idea.......... Crap video sry. BTW TIP I don't use thin glove material like that ughh I find it uneven and porous and why wreck a pair of gloves Better is just a piece of a really thin plastic bag like you get fresh food / fruit in. NOT a NORMAL SHOPPING BAG the really thin transparent ones only use. I wrap that around my finger and wind it up to tighten it, it is very stiff and smooth and harder then glove materials.
Seems everyone has their own ideas on how to apply TM. I have read that you really don't even need to spread it around a lot. Just put a drop about half the size of a normal pea on the CPU and put the heat sink on. The pressure should spread it around plenty. One thing that I have seen is test results that show that too much is just as bad as not enough TM. So use it sparingly.
As long as people understand there is no need not to spread it either. I have fitted 100s of CPU both ways. It is down to your experience. Applying translucent I get just the right amount every time. Squeezing can causes problems depending on coolers with uneven surfaces or application.
Did you see how after seating the paste he slips ? lol That is what can cause most problems no matter which way you do it. Novices can easily slip sideways worse then that and have uneven paste or air pockets. You can even scratch processor surface with a botched install, not too hard to do. You really should not go touching IHS surface with your fingerprints either, esp dirty fingers like that ! The reason a lot of cooler makers including Corsair liquid, Intel and AMD give you perfectly spread TM is it is lab tested as the best way for Joe Smith to get fair-good result.
