rFactor 2 and McLaren - World’s Fastest Gamer!

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  1. Christos Segkounas

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    Imagine getting the job of a McLaren sim driver then.
    While there's no reason for a virtual environment to be confined to just your home track, something tells me you will be driving nothing but.
     
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  2. Will Mazeo

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    I never had interest in it to begin with :D I'm too slow for that
    Also I don't like hot lapping, I have no patience for that. People that can do it (like the dude that did near 1.5k laps) is what McLaren is looking for I guess because in a sim you'll do a lot more than that before a race I suspect
     
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  3. T1specialist

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    If someone is wondering how come the mclaren is not selling then all you need to look at is what is being sold. There is no pre-order discounts, there are no discounts if you buy one car now and the rest later (you pay one car plus full package price which is more than the package price). You don't know what the other cars are in the package either. Even if you are thinking about getting the package it is better to just wait and see what kind of package it is. Which means not buy. Which also makes people less likely to buy as the novelty wears off. Only those who know they will like have bought it so far. Or who needed it for the wfg. But new customers coming back to rf2? Not happening. Not yet at least. I'm worried though...

    This probably has hurt the wfg particiation. But similarly it has made it a lot harder to generate buzz when people are in the dark about what is coming. Is it a good deal? Hard to say when nobody knows what kind of deal it is. I don't think the launch was ideal either. It was suddenly available and it was not even easy to find the car in the shop. All I can think is that 397 is simply overworked with trying to meet their deadlines which is why the radical lacks rcd files and why zandvoort was pushed out as 0.2. Does the mclaren lack rcd files as well? The mclaren apparently has some new lcd display options (lap time displays I think) as well but because the files are locked and 397 won't tell modders don't know how to add those.

    All I can see is that they are too busy because otherwise this kind of launch doesn't make much sense. On one hand it is messy but it is still miles miles better what rf2 would be without 397.

    I both agree and disagree with you. I think the main thing here was that the post they were responding to could have been written in more constructive way. Calling something shitty is just demoralizing and won't make anyone change their opinion. At most it antagonizes people and makes them not read anything else in that post.

    But at the same time it is equally annoying that most of the time criticism towards rf2 is just met with "go away" type of responses. Calling other people cheap is something unacceptable though and it is worrying that this has become accepted behaviour. Personally I'd hope the moderation was quicker to timeout people so these insults would not degrade the discussion. Just locking threads when the situation has completely escalated already won't solve these kinds of issues.
     
  4. Will Mazeo

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    I think the only way you could get more people is to have different divisions for people with slower pace and give the winners (or top 5) some kind of prize like a McLaren F1 minuature car signed by Alonso, without that there is no reason for people to take part in it, I mean... you just hot lap for no reason and there no race against the people with same lap time as yours, no prizes, nothing. No amount of promo would bring more people to join it. It's no different in any other competition I guess
     
  5. peterchen

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    They clearly dont wanted to sell it (at that point)!
    As you said, people found this offer by chance. No advertising, teasing, information (both about offer and the car(s) itself),
    no marketing at all. If that is how S397 wanted to sell their DLCs for generating income, then good night....
    And dont you tell me that is not my business, as I want my (still) favorite sim to grow and survive because I cant drive any other.
    So if rF2 dies, my hobby dies too.
     
  6. Emery

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    The McLaren has no talent files. You can prove this in two ways without even trying to open the MAS:
    1. Only the preprogrammed AI names show up (e.g. Frank Fauvel) when you have only a couple AI opponents.
    2. The AI names have inconsistent performance between races because they're assigned random numbers for their rcd skill (e.g. Frank Fauvel will easily win the first race, but be stupidly slow the second race).
     
  7. 006

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    Just as well im slow as hell then :p
    Although getting paid to drive it might increase my interest in it too.
     
  8. Emery

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    How can you tell how well the McLaren or pack are selling?
     
  9. T1specialist

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    I just find it odd that there is no change at all in rf2 usage numbers:
    http://steamcharts.com/app/365960
    To me that just suggests it is the people who already actively playing rf2 who are buying the car. No new players.
     
  10. MarcG

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    They sold over 1100 units of the McLaren/GT3 Pack, that much is evident from the participating numbers in the first WFG Round. That is of course not counting those that did not take part.
     
  11. Will Mazeo

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    Owners and Players in last 2 weeks are at all time high tho if I'm not mistaken.
    Don't know how that players in 2 weeks stats works, but comparing to RaceRoom for example, RR has less daily active players accoring to Steam, but a lot more players in 2 weeks probably due to the nature of the free 2 play part
     
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    +1 then, at least :D Not interested in the prize. Not that I could win it anyway. Did get into the 1:59s at Silverstone GT though, I was quite pleased with that.
     
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  13. T1specialist

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    I think with all steam stats they only show stats for people who have not set their steam accounts private (or something like that). Where do you get the info that owners and players are at all time high? Owners for sure because that number rarely goes down :p but players..?
     
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    The number changes (and go down too) from time to time. I'm just saying from my mind, I never saw numbers higher than now, I always like to take a look during a release or sale since it's when the peak happens. Like the 1,4k players during the DX11 first day of beta.
    It's fun to see how sometimes updates in other games can affect it, especially inside the simracing market
     
  15. demerzel

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    Let's assume those who buy any item will start the game. The game will subscribe them automatically. Check the current subscribers.

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    About 25.000€ so far considering those figures.
     
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  17. Emery

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    Thanks demerzel, that seems a very reasonable test.

    Assuming no one bought both the single car and the pack, that's 4703 owners of paid DLC. Significantly larger number than have entered WFG.

    Compared to steamspy.com's "Players in the last 2 weeks: 16,901 ± 3,742", that's at least 22.7% of the active players (& no more than 35.7%). Will be interesting to see how much that increases once the full pack is released.
     
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  18. demerzel

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    Actually. I believe the McLaren current subscribers is the total of DLC sales. Here is why: Everyone who bought the GT pack also got the McLaren. But those who only bought the McLaren haven't got the GT Pack. With this in mind, you can't just sum the two current subscribers.
     
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    I believe so and that's how I calculated the figures.
     
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  20. Emery

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    Good point.

    Revised numbers: at least 14.4% of active players (& no more than 22.6%).
     
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