well you thought wrong. thats what happens when you try to brand every guy who voices his honest opinion of being a fanboy of x sim and hater of rf. and these all I pointed out are valid concerns. I can show you right now my steam account and rfactor demo of it, and the thread I opened on steam forum. and you can see me buying this and playing. that is IF, i buy it. you are right ac has alot of those little annoying things. I actually even hate that you have to open the launcher layout first, then you have the .exe engine of the game working seperately. or wait times on servers when a session ends, or race ending suddenly with no indication and sending you to the pits, or as you said the actual pitting. or AI etc. but I think race is only done against human players, so I dont really care about AI, I dont feel happy when I make a good move on AI, I dont feel horrible when AI overtakes me. for me AI might be for learning how to race, its not to have fun racing. for me. that aside, these are all objective points. clearly rf2 has the best AI. but when you start to talk like "ac has canned effects, its bad, rf physics better" etc. thats the bashing. because thats just your own opinion and you totally disregard that very successful and experienced team's efforts. hell they have all the budget and access to the real versions of the cars they make, they have a track for themselves. they can basicly go out and feel the car, come back and make it for the sim. I argue about things which is not about my rf2 experience, as you can see. also I didnt say developing an engine for 10 years ignorant. I said calling it "not old" is ignorant. it was an exchange of words anyways. i would just say its wrong to call 10 years old engine not old because they added new features on it. g27 toy wheel, well yes and that goes for any consumer grade wheels on the market. they just dont have enough power. yes I wont get that and neither will you right? these cars arent so much harder than driving a go-kart in a tough track, because of faster turns etc. though I dont get what exactly is your point. from a driving and physics standpoint sim karting and real karting is quite similar.