Mills needs some turn names + 66 Monaco turn names...

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  1. hushypushy

    hushypushy Registered

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    Here's the Monaco list, I made a couple additions/corrections based on a purely English view:

    Sainte Devote
    Beau Rivage (not sure when this kink was given a distinct name; maybe not in the 60s)
    Massenet
    Casino (or Casino Square)
    Mirabeau (aka Mirabeau Haute but I have never heard anyone say this)
    Station Hairpin
    Mirabeau (aka Mirabeau Bas but again, never heard this in English)
    Portier
    The Tunnel
    Harbor Chicane (also just "the chicane")
    Tobacconist (Stewart and Hill always referred to it as such; not sure when it switched to Tabac)
    Gasworks Hairpin

    Here's a good video about it: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vPvqyUjhBTI and another here (notice the moved down Chicane by this point) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7G6i2ZuM6To
     
  2. A13

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    nice vids
    thanks for posting :)
     
  3. deBorgo83

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    Some ideas for Mills, focused on Outer Loop B:

    1 - Virginia
    2 - The Esses (agreeing with blakboks :) )
    3 - Ford
    4 - Zanardi
    Back Straight - The Runway
    5 - Gurney
    6-7a - Fairfax
    8 - Mason's
    9a - Chevy Curve
    10-nochic - Big Dipper
    11 - The Hook
    12 - Wheatley's (gotta be in there somewhere surely!)
    13a - Shelby
    14a - The Kink
    15 - Modders
     
  4. flibberflops

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    Tourettes Turn!
     
  5. Flatspotter

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    I like that! Or maybe Expletive Bend.

    Turn 10 (no chicane): Wheldon Sweep.
    Turn 1: The Fish Hook.
    Turn 6: Quicksand.
     
  6. BigDuke6

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    MMmm T11 - how about "Tulips" ?

    Cause you really have to tiptoe through there. :rolleyes:
     
  7. Guy Moulton

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    13b- the washing machine. I always end up in the spin cycle....
     
  8. 1959nikos

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    Id really like one hairpin named after my real name: Theodorikoamphitheatrozaharokalamopoulos. It would be usefull for quick reference.

    (bends in Monaco should be called by their original French naming as you did, so its Gasometer than Gasworks, otherwise Tabac should be Tobacco shop imho)
     
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    Yes, quick reference lol :eek:

    It's been 10 minutes now and I still don't know how to say that name... and I've had coffee! :D
     
  10. Nimugp

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    I now how to solve the economic crisis in greece. Just scrap all the last names!!! Time is money, and that would save LOOOOOOOAAAAAADDDS of time clearly :p
     
  11. SLuisHamilton

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    Make a complaint for European Convention on Human Rights about your parents. Clearly something was violated by them
     
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    Ok, second try : Mavros (means black)

    Nickname of Ioannis Meimaridis R.I.P. 1945-1971.
    The biggest talent of its generation in street circuits, probably one of the top five ever in Greece, died when his Alfa Romeo GTAM (the Americana as it was called) crashed on the medieval walls surrounding the citadel of Rhodes, making it the last circuit (the most picturesque in greece) to be held around them.
     
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  13. hushypushy

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    I see what you're saying, but---we aren't necessarily using the translation of the original (French) names, but rather what it was called by English speakers back then; there's a slight difference.

    Otherwise, "Tabac" would just be "Tobacco". Tobacconist, as they called it, means "someone who runs a tobacco shop."

    However, if the last hairpin was called gazom├Ętre in French, then the direct translation works--or at least, that's what they said back in the day: "Gasworks Hairpin".
     
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    I understand, but still prefer countries original naming.
    Eau rouge has a dirrect English translation but original ...sounds nicer?
     
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  17. Richard Busch

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    I know some people would like a turn named for Don Scurlock. I know he's one of the driver names in the Brabham field, but it would be nice to include the name into a turn somewhere.

    If anyone needs an explanation why, just ask.
     
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  18. 88mphTim

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    Maybe could use his forename instead of his last name. "Don" is a nice sharp word name for a turn.
     
  19. JGraf

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    my greatest racing inspiration, 7 times Winston Cup Champion - Dale Earnhardt, "the Intimidator".
    for that turn everyone loves to hate.
     
  20. hushypushy

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    Yes, but no one, and I mean no one, EVER says "Red Water" is the name of the turn. The turn is called Eau Rouge in every language just like how a tsunami is a tsunami. The original word is used everywhere.

    Conversely, in the 60's, Graham Hill (and others) can be heard referring to the turn as "the Tobacconist corner" and "the Gasworks hairpin". If you watch the short clip I posted in this thread, you can see those exact names used in that documentary too.

    Maybe the difference is that you live right there in Europe, and your country's official language is not English. From my American perspective, having only experienced Grand Prix racing in English, whatever the English speakers say becomes set in stone for me--if it's good enough for Stewart and Hill, it's good enough for me. But surely, the French promoters did not say "The Gasworks Hairpin," and perhaps, neither did Greek spectators :p

    I'm not sure exactly what ISI is going for here. If they want to give corner names to appeal to the English speaking market, then I strongly believe that I'm right (regarding the names I gave). However, the more I think about it, if ISI decides to be historically accurate (and really, why shouldn't they?), then each turn should have the historically and locationally correct names--which means that Monaco should only have French names--no English.
     

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