Mills needs some turn names + 66 Monaco turn names...

Here's the Monaco list, I made a couple additions/corrections based on a purely English view:

Sainte Devote
Beau Rivage (not sure when this kink was given a distinct name; maybe not in the 60s)
Massenet
Casino (or Casino Square)
Mirabeau (aka Mirabeau Haute but I have never heard anyone say this)
Station Hairpin
Mirabeau (aka Mirabeau Bas but again, never heard this in English)
Portier
The Tunnel
Harbor Chicane (also just "the chicane")
Tobacconist (Stewart and Hill always referred to it as such; not sure when it switched to Tabac)
Gasworks Hairpin

Here's a good video about it: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vPvqyUjhBTI and another here (notice the moved down Chicane by this point) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7G6i2ZuM6To
 
Some ideas for Mills, focused on Outer Loop B:

1 - Virginia
2 - The Esses (agreeing with blakboks :) )
3 - Ford
4 - Zanardi
Back Straight - The Runway
5 - Gurney
6-7a - Fairfax
8 - Mason's
9a - Chevy Curve
10-nochic - Big Dipper
11 - The Hook
12 - Wheatley's (gotta be in there somewhere surely!)
13a - Shelby
14a - The Kink
15 - Modders
 
Tim Wheatley said:
feel free to try naming a turn after yourself :)
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Id really like one hairpin named after my real name: Theodorikoamphitheatrozaharokalamopoulos. It would be usefull for quick reference.

(bends in Monaco should be called by their original French naming as you did, so its Gasometer than Gasworks, otherwise Tabac should be Tobacco shop imho)
 
1959nikos said:
Id really like one hairpin named after my real name: Theodorikoamphitheatrozaharokalamopoulos. It would be usefull for quick reference.
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Yes, quick reference lol :eek:

It's been 10 minutes now and I still don't know how to say that name... and I've had coffee! :D
 
I now how to solve the economic crisis in greece. Just scrap all the last names!!! Time is money, and that would save LOOOOOOOAAAAAADDDS of time clearly :p
 
Ok, second try : Mavros (means black)

Nickname of Ioannis Meimaridis R.I.P. 1945-1971.
The biggest talent of its generation in street circuits, probably one of the top five ever in Greece, died when his Alfa Romeo GTAM (the Americana as it was called) crashed on the medieval walls surrounding the citadel of Rhodes, making it the last circuit (the most picturesque in greece) to be held around them.
 
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1959nikos said:
(bends in Monaco should be called by their original French naming as you did, so its Gasometer than Gasworks, otherwise Tabac should be Tobacco shop imho)
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I see what you're saying, but---we aren't necessarily using the translation of the original (French) names, but rather what it was called by English speakers back then; there's a slight difference.

Otherwise, "Tabac" would just be "Tobacco". Tobacconist, as they called it, means "someone who runs a tobacco shop."

However, if the last hairpin was called gazomètre in French, then the direct translation works--or at least, that's what they said back in the day: "Gasworks Hairpin".
 
Tim Wheatley said:
Some good ones, some not so good. ;) I especially like Ratzenberger, very nice thought.

Thanks for the info on the Monaco hairpin, too. The ref I found called it that, it probably is a French-English translation difference.
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hushypushy said:
I see what you're saying, but---we aren't necessarily using the translation of the original (French) names, but rather what it was called by English speakers back then; there's a slight difference.

Otherwise, "Tabac" would just be "Tobacco". Tobacconist, as they called it, means "someone who runs a tobacco shop."

However, if the last hairpin was called gazomètre in French, then the direct translation works--or at least, that's what they said back in the day: "Gasworks Hairpin".
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I understand, but still prefer countries original naming.
Eau rouge has a dirrect English translation but original ...sounds nicer?
 
1959nikos said:
Ok, second try : Mavros (means black)

Nickname of Ioannis Meimaridis R.I.P. 1945-1971.
The biggest talent of its generation in street circuits, probably one of the top five ever in Greece, died when his Alfa Romeo GTAM (the Americana as it was called) crashed on the medieval walls surrounding the citadel of Rhodes, making it the last circuit (the most picturesque in greece) to be held around them.
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I know some people would like a turn named for Don Scurlock. I know he's one of the driver names in the Brabham field, but it would be nice to include the name into a turn somewhere.

If anyone needs an explanation why, just ask.
 
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my greatest racing inspiration, 7 times Winston Cup Champion - Dale Earnhardt, "the Intimidator".
for that turn everyone loves to hate.
 
1959nikos said:
I understand, but still prefer countries original naming.
Eau rouge has a dirrect English translation but original ...sounds nicer?
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Yes, but no one, and I mean no one, EVER says "Red Water" is the name of the turn. The turn is called Eau Rouge in every language just like how a tsunami is a tsunami. The original word is used everywhere.

Conversely, in the 60's, Graham Hill (and others) can be heard referring to the turn as "the Tobacconist corner" and "the Gasworks hairpin". If you watch the short clip I posted in this thread, you can see those exact names used in that documentary too.

Maybe the difference is that you live right there in Europe, and your country's official language is not English. From my American perspective, having only experienced Grand Prix racing in English, whatever the English speakers say becomes set in stone for me--if it's good enough for Stewart and Hill, it's good enough for me. But surely, the French promoters did not say "The Gasworks Hairpin," and perhaps, neither did Greek spectators :p

I'm not sure exactly what ISI is going for here. If they want to give corner names to appeal to the English speaking market, then I strongly believe that I'm right (regarding the names I gave). However, the more I think about it, if ISI decides to be historically accurate (and really, why shouldn't they?), then each turn should have the historically and locationally correct names--which means that Monaco should only have French names--no English.
 
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