Latest Roadmap Update - March 2019

Seven Smiles said:
I've heard that pitch several times, every time the shiny new architecture rapidly succumbs and we start looking at a "do-over" using the latest "modern technology and good practices" :rolleyes:
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True, frameworks come and go but good code lasts much longer, with solid principles, proper unit/integration tests, etc. Good code can even survive architectural changes if it's decoupled and concise, what's really hard to sell to business and clients, that would rather go for a rushed solution.
I hope S397 keep calm and deliver a good piece of software that leverages the team to deliver new higher quality features faster. Take your time and it will pay off in the future.
 
LokiD said:
Rf2 is so frustrating cause it could be sooo good.having said that. This will never compete with iracing for online play so don't go alienating all your offline players quite so quickly eh?
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Id like to read that in 5 years. Will you be proud or will you be ashamed? :D
I agree. I think also they should invest in being the best/first modding platform in the market. I think its AC now
 
Marcel Offermans said:
. A few other, smaller, things such as random weather and weather linked to the real-time weather
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based on the comments from the March Roadmap, that seems to be a wanted feature.
One thing I've never understood about real time weather....I'm in the Pacific NW of the USA. If I race at Bathurst, and use real time weather, I would be racing in the cold cold of night rather than the basking warmth of the afternoon. rF2 has users from all over the world, how do you manage real time weather so that your conditions match the appropriate time of day and not just the Zulu time of the sim track?
 
Last time we played with real-time weather it just uses the current conditions at the real track, by that I mean we generally race starting at 2000 local time(night time) but the race time is set for 1600 (in daylight), but using the weather at 2000 from the real track, so while racing in daylight if it’s raining at the real track, then it’s raining in game.
 
davehenrie said:
based on the comments from the March Roadmap, that seems to be a wanted feature.
One thing I've never understood about real time weather....I'm in the Pacific NW of the USA. If I race at Bathurst, and use real time weather, I would be racing in the cold cold of night rather than the basking warmth of the afternoon. rF2 has users from all over the world, how do you manage real time weather so that your conditions match the appropriate time of day and not just the Zulu time of the sim track?
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The beauty of Real Time Weather is that you could use Historical Data, so skip back 12hours to Race in Daylight on the other side of the world (or 5 years ago if you like!). Alternatively I'd like to see Simple Weather options remain to work alongside Real Time, so you can set your preferred Weather State and then use Random Weather as another Option if you fancy not knowing what's gonna happen.
 
Marcel Offermans said:
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Thanks Marcel! That's exactly what i wanted to read, a statement coming from official sources telling that SP improvements are not off the table. I also understand and appreciate the effort, and priority, to bring MP to another level. Definitely one of the reason i don't MP in rF2 is because it is not as easy as in others products.

Again i appreciate this communication and i'm looking forward to further support 397 with incoming DLC.

PS: I would like to give you my 2cents about the MP. For me, it is equally important how easy and stable is to find a race, the presence of code that punish unclean racers and some schedule program that cover most daytime. I know that competition will deal with the first two problems so that's a great start.
 
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I have a query for more informed rf2 MP users, I noticed that when I play rf2 online it is not fluid, it tends to have small cuts and delays, on the other hand when I play in iracing I do not have this problem (I know that Iracing has more resources, not remind me), finally, my question is if there is any plan to improve this kind of thing, which, in my opinion, would greatly improve the online experience.

I ask because the times I played I had that problem and when I saw the 24 hours of sebring I also noticed those problems in the transmission.

I want to make it clear that it is only an opinion, I appreciate the work of s397.

pd: sorry for my English
 
@dazzer as a player you shouldn't get any delays or stutters, as a spectator or streaming things could change quite a lot. This thread is targeted at people experiencing freezes as they play and trying to work out what's causing them, so if you do experience that issue you could perhaps help isolate the issue.
 
Thanks for the ‘expectation management’. Appreciated. Whilst I’m dissapointed that we wont be seeing offline championships sooner rather than later I do understand the need to get a good MP sorted.

I’ll keep hope for better car selection or race series creation. That would be a great help to then use the brilliant external champ tool.

Keep up the good work S397
 
Louis said:
... I think also they should invest in being the best/first modding platform in the market. I think its AC now
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I couldn't disagree more that's exactly one of the issues that made rf2 a very poor product under ISI activities and we still pay the price after years. I understand that being mod friendly is a plus but should never be the main goal otherwise you end up with extremely shallow products just like rf1 and its successor.

Even Kunos understood that offering no complete package (a complete race category so a collection of cars made to compete with each other, car behaviors double checked thanks to a more focused approach, a championship system, maybe even a career, etc...) is bad and indeed they are trying to correct the mistake done in AC.

Luckily 397 is not repeating the same lame mistakes that ISI did, actually 397 are taking exactly the opposite path and it really seems that they want to make sure that rf2 become a deeper product.
 
No adjustments to AI yet or proposals to address this in future? The last excuse was he/she was working on the Amazon game. That released some time ago, what is the excuse now?
 
williang83 said:
I couldn't disagree more that's exactly one of the issues that made rf2 a very poor product under ISI activities and we still pay the price after years. I understand that being mod friendly is a plus but should never be the main goal otherwise you end up with extremely shallow products just like rf1 and its successor.
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And on what circuits would have we run, and with what cars?
RF2 would not have survived without the modding.
 
lagg said:
And on what circuits would have we run, and with what cars?
RF2 would not have survived without the modding.
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Exactly because it was not meant to be a complete package otherwise also a group of tracks that fulfill given series would be included, i thought it was easy to imply that. As matter of fact the only reason why such a shallow products survived was because it was open to mod.

That being said, of course allowing tools for mods is a plus but imo quality > quantity.
 
williang83 said:
I couldn't disagree more that's exactly one of the issues that made rf2 a very poor product under ISI activities and we still pay the price after years. I understand that being mod friendly is a plus but should never be the main goal otherwise you end up with extremely shallow products just like rf1 and its successor.
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rF1 was a poor product, are we living in the same universe? Yes times have changed, but rF1 was pretty much the most successful PC sim ever released. It was the reason PC sims didn't go extinct from ca 2004-2009. Moreover, it was used as base for countless other games, GTR 1, 2, Race 07, pCars, all Reiza games, etc.
 
wmann said:
what is so special about rfactor is the fact that almost only software developers play the game. that's amazing ....
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The guys from id Software are hardcore gamers as well. The result is the best and most intense FPS. :cool: (And they also have a nice track record with free software.)
 
williang83 said:
Even Kunos understood that offering no complete package (a complete race category so a collection of cars made to compete with each other, car behaviors double checked thanks to a more focused approach, a championship system, maybe even a career, etc...) is bad and indeed they are trying to correct the mistake done in AC.
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Are you implying that AC was fail? Nonsense.
 
MarcG said:
The beauty of Real Time Weather is that you could use Historical Data, so skip back 12hours to Race in Daylight on the other side of the world (or 5 years ago if you like!). Alternatively I'd like to see Simple Weather options remain to work alongside Real Time, so you can set your preferred Weather State and then use Random Weather as another Option if you fancy not knowing what's gonna happen.
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You could also, carset permitting, run the EXACT race they did. So if you had a 1999 F1 mod you could run the chaos that was the 1999 Luxembourg GP.
 
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