How are the guys at ISI cocky? Imo, they are quite humble considering the amazing product they're developing. Pretty silly coming on here claiming that rF2 users are closed minded. Aren't you just as close minded, the way you're yapping on about AC? No need to answer, since that was a retorical question... AC has a long, long way to go before it's even close to being properly enjoyable, let alone truly immersive. Not denying, I am racing AC a lot these days, especially after the latest updates. Not denying, I was "blitzed" a bit by pretty graphics and the extreme self-esteem of Kunos. But it just gets so extremely stale after a while. Not a lot of depth. Tires feel "dead", the suspension is "wonky" (don't know the technical term lol) and their attempt at "Real Road" is so far not very interesting nor immersive. AC has a lot longer to go than rF2 at this point, imo. We obsess about tyre deformation and weather because it's something ISI have gotten right with this sim, as opposed to the other current sims. Proper tyre deformation and proper weather simulation... That's immersion. Not fancy lighting or post fx. Not to me anyway. But we all have different views on that. In absolutely no way is rF2 losing anything, quite the contrary. 3rd party content is speeding up, mods are getting better and better all the time. I don't want a gazillion new mods every week. I'm fine with a few mods every couple of months. Especially when the quality is so high like it is now. The ISI content we have now is top of the line, with a lot more to come in the next period of time. All AC has at this point, 3rd party stuff that is, are a lot of awful converted tracks and a few decent cars. Kunos' AC content is great of course, but again... A certain shallowness to the physics and force feedback just doesn't make for a very good show in the long run, I've come to find. You do have some really good points. And no, your standards aren't too high. I think, maybe, your observations about the most fanatical AC users could be very true indeed. The times I've gone online in AC, I've come to find that the driving standard is so much lower than in rF2 MP. I expect to get rammed in AC MP. I don't expect that in rF2 MP... A lot of AC users (not saying all AC users) are just from a different crowd with different priorities. Peace be with them, I'm not one to judge. This is just from what I have observed.