Does CPU you choose still matter in today gaming?

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  1. taufikp

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  2. Gearjammer

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    The CPU still has to do a bit of work, and the lower the clock speed the less work any individual core will do. Keep in mind that the GPU's primary function is graphics. Without a CPU that is capable of keeping up with the rest of the workload, the GPU falls flat on it's face.

    Now for those interested, here is an article from Tom's Hardware showing the best CPU for the money for gaming.
    http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/gaming-cpu-review-overclock,3106.html
     
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    I did a little test at different CPU speeds showing FPS and GPU usage, used the default graphic settings you get with a fresh PLR file plus HDR @1920x1080 because I didn't want to overload the GPU. Just wish I had something faster (both CPU and GPU) to see how far this would go.

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  5. DurgeDriven

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    Conclusion is buy the fastest Sandy or Ivy you can afford and overclock the crap out of it.....................

    The diff. between my 2500K at stock and 5GHz was HuGE
     
  6. Kiro

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    From Tom's...


    You can use this hierarchy to compare the pricing between two processors, to see which one is a better deal, and also to determine if an upgrade is worthwhile. I don’t recommend upgrading your CPU unless the potential replacement is at least three tiers higher. Otherwise, the upgrade is somewhat parallel and you may not notice a worthwhile difference in game performance.


    [TABLE="class: editorTblTableleft editorTblSize100 editorTblStyleStyle2"][TR="class: tblEven"][TH="bgcolor: #373737, colspan: 2, align: center"]Gaming CPU Hierarchy Chart[/TH][/TR][TR="class: tblRow"][TH="bgcolor: #373737, align: center"]Intel[/TH][TH="bgcolor: #373737, align: center"]AMD[/TH][/TR][TR="class: tblEven"][TD="bgcolor: #EFEFEF"]Core i7-2600, -2600K, -2700K, -3770, -3770K, -3820, -3930K, -3960X, -3970X
    Core i7-965, -975 Extreme, -980X Extreme, -990X Extreme
    Core i5-3570K, -3570, -3550, -3470, -3450P, -3450, -3350P, -3330, 2550K, -2500K, -2500, -2450P, -2400, -2380P, -2320, -2310, -2300[/TD][TD="bgcolor: #EFEFEF"]
    [/TD][/TR][TR="class: tblRow"][TD]Core i7-980, -970, -960
    Core i7-870, -875K
    Core i3-3225, -3240, -3220,-2100, -2105, -2120, -2125, -2130[/TD][TD]FX-8350[/TD][/TR][TR="class: tblEven"][TD="bgcolor: #EFEFEF"]Core i7-860, -920, -930, -940, -950
    Core i5-3220T, -750, -760, -2405S, -2400S
    Core 2 Extreme QX9775, QX9770, QX9650
    Core 2 Quad Q9650[/TD][TD="bgcolor: #EFEFEF"]FX-8320, 6300, 4300, 4170
    Phenom II X6 1100T BE, 1090T BE
    Phenom II X4 Black Edition 980, 975[/TD][/TR][TR="class: tblRow"][TD]Core 2 Extreme QX6850, QX6800
    Core 2 Quad Q9550, Q9450, Q9400
    Core i5-650, -655K, -660, -661, -670, -680
    Core i3-2100T, -2120T[/TD][TD]FX-8150, -6200
    Phenom II X6 1075T
    Phenom II X4 Black Edition 970, 965, 955[/TD][/TR][TR="class: tblEven"][TD="bgcolor: #EFEFEF"]Core 2 Extreme QX6700
    Core 2 Quad Q6700, Q9300, Q8400, Q6600, Q8300
    Core 2 Duo E8600, E8500, E8400, E7600
    Core i3 -530, -540, -550
    Pentium G2120, G870, G860, G850, G840, G645, G640, G630[/TD][TD="bgcolor: #EFEFEF"]FX-8120, -6100, -4100
    Phenom II X6 1055T, 1045T
    Phenom II X4 945, 940, 920, 910, 910e, 810
    Phenom II X3 Black Edition 720, 740
    A8-3850, -3870K
    A6-3650, -3670K
    Athlon II X4 651K, 645, 641, 640, 635, 630
    Athlon II X3 460, 455, 450, 445, 440, 435[/TD][/TR][TR="class: tblRow"][TD]Core 2 Extreme X6800
    Core 2 Quad Q8200
    Core 2 Duo E8300, E8200, E8190, E7500, E7400, E6850, E6750
    Pentium G620
    Celeron G555, G550, G540, G530[/TD][TD]Phenom II X4 905e, 805
    Phenom II X3 710, 705e
    Phenom II X2 565 BE, 560 BE, 555 BE, 550 BE, 545
    Phenom X4 9950
    Athlon II X4 620, 631
    Athlon II X3 425[/TD][/TR][TR="class: tblEven"][TD="bgcolor: #EFEFEF"]Core 2 Duo E7200, E6550, E7300, E6540, E6700
    Pentium Dual-Core E5700, E5800, E6300, E6500, E6600, E6700
    Pentium G9650[/TD][TD="bgcolor: #EFEFEF"]Phenom X4 9850, 9750, 9650, 9600
    Phenom X3 8850, 8750
    Athlon II X2 265, 260, 255
    Athlon 64 X2 6400+[/TD][/TR][TR="class: tblRow"][TD]Core 2 Duo E4700, E4600, E6600, E4500, E6420
    Pentium Dual-Core E5400, E5300, E5200, G620T[/TD][TD]Phenom X4 9500, 9550, 9450e, 9350e
    Phenom X3 8650, 8600, 8550, 8450e, 8450, 8400, 8250e
    A4-3400
    Athlon II X2 240, 245, 250
    Athlon X2 7850, 7750
    Athlon 64 X2 6000+, 5600+[/TD][/TR][TR="class: tblEven"][TD="bgcolor: #EFEFEF"]Core 2 Duo E4400, E4300, E6400, E6320
    Celeron E3300[/TD][TD="bgcolor: #EFEFEF"]Phenom X4 9150e, 9100e
    Athlon X2 7550, 7450, 5050e, 4850e/b
    Athlon 64 X2 5400+, 5200+, 5000+, 4800+[/TD][/TR][TR="class: tblRow"][TD]Core 2 Duo E5500, E6300
    Pentium Dual-Core E2220, E2200, E2210
    Celeron E3200[/TD][TD]Athlon X2 6550, 6500, 4450e/b,
    Athlon X2 4600+, 4400+, 4200+, BE-2400[/TD][/TR][TR="class: tblEven"][TD="bgcolor: #EFEFEF"]Pentium Dual-Core E2180
    Celeron E1600, G440[/TD][TD="bgcolor: #EFEFEF"]Athlon 64 X2 4000+, 3800+
    Athlon X2 4050e, BE-2300[/TD][/TR][TR="class: tblRow"][TD]Pentium Dual-Core E2160, E2140
    Celeron E1500, E1400, E1200[/TD][/TR][/TABLE]
    They have charts for GPU's as well.
     
  7. Gearjammer

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    I would hope it would be DD seeing as the stock 2500K is 3.3Ghz, you are adding almost 2Ghz to the clock so effectively almost doubling the clock speed of each core.
     
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    Running an i7 2600 @ 5ghz ( water cooled ) it stays cool & stable

    A decent mobo , ths chip , decent cooling & don't think you'll need to upgrade for quite a while
     
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    5GHz did heavy benching for stability, heat tests, etc.

    I run Sims @4.5Ghz that is 22% over Turbo.
     
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    rf2 on a 6970 only uses 17% cpu most of the time with my 3570k at 4.4ghz. Totally gpu limited :)
     
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    Low CPU/GPU usage is irrelevant to me at least.

    When I run rFactor2 online room I am almost always doing a heap of other stuff in background.


    The "more" cycles ie: faster the core is most everything responds and does its job faster.

    AIN'T ROCKET SCIENCE. :)

    So why waste 5GHz if you can use it ? ;)
     
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    well that was just running laps alone. in online with a lot of players, cpu becomes ever more important. that's true of every game really. counter strike kills cpu's once you get to 40 man servers, for example.
     
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    I host a RF2 room okay

    In background I can run another sim like GTR with 100 cars to test a new track.
    Do encoding and burning
    Photofiltre tiny prog for edit/ posting screenshots.
    Music in winamp
    TV series in little VLC while music and encoding.

    Then
    fraps
    afterburner and OSD
    joy 2 key
    task manager
    Tune up utilities
    Chrome multi tabs with miminal browsing
    Windows explorer few instances

    All that and more at one time, serious. :)

    If I task back to rF2 ( it does ctd sometimes but that is only this build )
    I can still do a PB / race no problem
     
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  14. Saabjock

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    Jesus!
    That's a lot of work.
    Processors have come a long way.
    Remember a few years back, when if you were burning a cd you didn't dear do anything else for fear of having it fail?
    Kudos for the competition.
    It spawned great CPU in a very short time.
     
  15. DurgeDriven

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    Yeah 2500K handles anything I have ever thrown at it.

    You can run all the bells and whistles on your OS, fill the screen with icons, 100 start menu folders, task-bar full and a dozen or more start-up programs. lopl

    Still I always have and will run my OS stripped to the bone with a clock and 2 start up items for company. p

    I detest messy and bloated OS , registry, folders, desktop ....... no matter how fast the tower is.
     
  16. Marek Lesniak

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    Yup! But don't forget about SSD for OS and all the important apps! Since I moved to SSD a few months ago, I can really take all the benefits a modern CPU can give. With typical HDD (even those doing sequential read ~140MB/s) working with many tabs in web browser can tan a while.
    With SSD, applications just "show up" instead of loading... the best test, is to save a Firefox session with a 8-10 windows, each with 20-30 tabs.
    With SSD, it takes just a 2-3 sec. to open it back. With typical HDD... you can go with your dog for a short walk, before the application fully opens up ;)

    But as to the main question - yes, CPU does matter, as long as GPU is not a huge bottleneck. Also remember, that CPU has to prepare the whole 3D scene to be rendered by GPU, so a fast GPU needs fast CPU.
     

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