Best PC specifications via PCSPECIALIST

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  1. hamiltonfan2205

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    I am hoping to get this new PC I am planning on getting within the next two weeks from this site http://www.pcspecialist.co.uk/.

    I am hoping to be able to run rFactor 2 on it with it's highest graphics settings or at least close to highest graphics settings and to be able to live stream in high quality.

    Ignoring pricing, what would you say is the best specifications for a tower pc to furfill these requirements?
     
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    Intel i7 4770k / 16GB RAM / 64-bit OS / nVidia 780Ti.
     
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    deleted ... not working copy and paste.
     
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    c3po, that is exactly my system, i have 2 x 780 but only run 1 in rf2 as it has no stuttering and much higher fps this way.
     
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    Cases at that site are a bit sparse for dual rad cooling.


    Case
    FRACTAL DESIGN ARC MIDI R2 MID-TOWER CASE

    Processor (CPU)
    Intel® Core™i7 Quad Core Processor i7-4790k (4.0GHz) 8MB Cache

    Motherboard
    Gigabyte Z97X Gaming 3: ATX, LG1150, USB 3.0, SATA 6GBs, XFIRE/SLI
    ***GIGABYTE PROMO ***

    Memory (RAM)
    16GB KINGSTON HYPER-X BEAST DUAL-DDR3 2133MHz X.M.P (2 x 8GB)

    Graphics Card
    3GB NVIDIA GEFORCE GTX 780 Ti - 2 DVI, HDMI, DP - 3D Vision Ready

    1st Hard Disk
    120GB INTEL® 530 SERIES SSD, SATA 6 Gb/s (upto 550MB/sR | 520MB/sW)

    2nd Hard Disk
    1TB WD CAVIAR BLACK WD1003FZEX, SATA 6 Gb/s, 64MB CACHE (7200rpm)

    1st DVD/BLU-RAY Drive
    24x DUAL LAYER DVD WRITER ±R/±RW/RAM

    Power Supply
    CORSAIR 750W PRO SERIES™ HX750-80 PLUS® GOLD MODULAR (£79)

    Processor Cooling
    Corsair H100i Hydro Series High Performance CPU Cooler (£89)

    £1,466.00 inc VAT and Delivery
     
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    Yeah pretty much spot on for full on single screen rFactor2 for mine.


    Live stream at high quality , if you are talking single screen 1920 what else would help it that much ?

    Triple screen would have to be "give and take" ................. I assume.
     
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    Yay! :) Thanks for the help. Btw I am talking about single screen :)
     
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    I couldn't see a SSD on the last list you posted, I'd be tempted to add a 250gb SSD for the OS and your key Games, then a standard drive for files etc? Make load times so much quicker. I'm guessing the 770gtx might is quite a bit behind the 780ti that was mentioned orginally although I've been thinking of getting one for single screen and must be pretty close to being able to max out RF2?
     
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    Don't think i'd be able to increase it anymore as the price i've currently got is kind of the maximum i can spend, I just want to ask, would the pc specs in the latest screenshot i posted do the things i want it to do at a good level?
     
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    I would dump the BD and card stuff if you don't need it for a small SSD, the OS will benefit from it greatly. Do you really need the wireless card and modular version of the PSU?
    The 770 is probably good enough, but you'll have to look at different recording programs to see which performs better.
     
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    Never noticed that doh

    Yeah ditch the Blueray and Network card and put it towards a SSD.

    As I said a decent Plus80 power Supply will do the job
    As he says that would give you enough for a SSD as well.


    As well the motherboard is bit over the top for no overclocking, I would get a Gigabyte or MSi H97 Gaming 3 board.


    http://www.pccasegear.com/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=138_1491&products_id=28017

    http://www.pccasegear.com/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=138_1491&products_id=27599
     
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    Just a heads up okay I not saying this is price difference where you buy okay.

    Newegg
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    ASUS MAXIMUS VI HERO - $174 ( after $20 rebate )

    MSI H97 GAMING 3 - $119

    You simply do not need a Z87, the H97 is more suited to your specs.

    http://www.asus.com/Motherboards/MAXIMUS_VI_HERO/specifications/

    http://au.msi.com/product/mb/H97_GAMING_3.html#hero-overview


    1. You are not overclocking so you don't need better phase power or overclocking features.

    2. You are using 1600MHz Memory so you don't need the extra bandwidth of the Z87

    3. You are using Single video card so you don't need 8x 8x pci-e

    Virtually that is the $80 of tech you waste between models right there.



    The Hero does have 2 more 6GB sata ports but again I doubt you need 8.
    H97 has 6 or 4 if you happen to buy a mini SSD to run in M.2 port. ie: it takes over 2 sata ports.


    H97 is Intel 5th Gen
    Has a M.2 slot which will give your SSD even more punch
    http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820147315
    Realtek ALC1150 would be okay too.



    P.S.

    If you like Asus, even better, that has M.2 as well ............ http://www.asus.com/Motherboards/H97PRO_GAMER/

    That should barely be dearer then the Gaming 3's

    Also keep in mind ..........

    H97 you may possibly ( not guaranteed) overclock the "K's" and the "Anniversary edition" ..and the "Haswell refresh release" non-K's ...........which is what your 4790 is.


    You should build your own get the right parts for you.
     
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    Bit shocking the site allowed hamiltonfan to even select the 350W with all those components. You'd think they have a psi calculator built into the page that limits your chose to the minimum psu wattage required by your pc configuration of choice.
     
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    Will take this into consideration, however the thing that also makes me have to be lenient on the cost is I need a new monitor as well. I will have a look when I get the chance though
     
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    I'm a little limited on budget, however my dad found this pc and suggested that i posted it here. http://www.dell.com/uk/p/alienware-x51-r2/pd.aspx My budget is low enough to buy this pc.

    Would this pc run rfactor 2 at it's highest, if not at high graphics settings whilst streaming the gameplay?
     
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    Which one? There are three X51's on that link, all of which are horrible if you ask me and your getting ripped off.

    This is what you're buying for a graphics carb in the cheaper two: http://www.geforce.co.uk/hardware/desktop-gpus/geforce-gtx-745-oem

    [​IMG]

    I can't stress enough how much of piece of crap this is for the amount of money they are asking for (which i'm not surprised by, considering it's not built by yourself and it's an Alienware PC).

    For the cheapest X51 of £600 you could build yourself a pc that would perform at least twice as good as the one being sold. This is where they make their huge margins….in selling PC's at around twice the custom built price and/or getting the cost allocated division on cpu and gpu miserably wrong.

    I use to sell the occasional custom built PC to people where they wanted the same spec/performance as a branded one and i would charge them a good £100 for a few hours of work (sourcing the parts on the internet and then building it) and yet still save them £300+.

    Absolutely not. Most likely a blend of low/medium settings and getting 35-45 fps at 1080p resolution (and whilst that's an educated guess, i think i might be being generous there). The graphics card alone is just horrible on so many levels when you look at the specs. Just from the specs alone, it actually looks like a graphics card for general media playing (videos and not games).

    Based on their own graphs (if you check the performance page), it's about 20-30% of the performance of the gtx 670. I had a GTX 670 and even that could not play at maximum graphics well (i used a mix of medium/high settings and not maximums to get 70-90fps), so you can imagine how a card with only 20-30% of its performance is going to be (i.e. in the 15-30fps range at medium/high settings at best most probably).

    You are far better off buying all the components and paying someone at a computer shop to put it all together for you (even if they charged you £100). You'd have a way better system and still saved yourself a good chunk of cash. Of course, realizing that would be saving so much money, you could instead reinvest the money saved into the custom built pc and achieve a PC that is so much closer to your desired goal (being able to play on maximum graphics settings).

    If you would have allowed me to, i would have offered my services to you but regardless of whether you'd trust/wanted me to do it or not, i can't as i'm currently in hong kong.

    So, in summary, you can certainly play with this pc but don't except wonders from it in the graphics department. Also not all games are equal and you will find that some will be playable with high settings achieving at minimum 30fps (which is generally considered the minimal "playability" threshold since consoles output at around this rate) but most likely on a 720p monitor vs a 1080p monitor.

    If you want help with sourcing the right parts, i'd be glad to help. But like everything in life "you get out what you put in".
     
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