What ram should I buy?

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  1. noe173

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    hi
    with windows 32 bit and 4 gb ram factor have to be run on
    everything low in graphics
    ... that why i am option for 8gb ram and windows 64 bit ....

    my system is as follows:

    Intel i7 - 2600K - 3.4Ghz 8Mb
    Asus Maxim IV Extreme 2
    AMD Radion HD6900 Series
    4gb normal ram 1333 ( which I will NOT use later
    when i buy the 8Gb)


    so ram i will need to look for must be

    timing 8-8-8-24 or 7-7-7-21 better
    LC7 LC8 or LC9

    i found the following G skills (4gb x2):

    [ripjaws] 8GB DDR3 PC3-10666 Kit, F3-10666CL7D-8GBRH Latency Timings:CL7 ( 7-7-7-21 ) Memory Speed:1333 MHz
    or

    [Ripjaws] F3-8500CL7D-8GBRL DDR3-1066 (PC-8500) Latency Timings:CL7 ( 7-7-7-21 ), Memory Speed:1333 MHz
    or
    [Ripjaws] F3-12800CL8D-8GBRM DDR3-1600 (PC-12800) CL 8-8-8-24-2N
    or
    [Ripjaws] F3-12800CL9D-8GBRL DDR3-1600 (PC-12800) LC 9-9-9-24
    or
    G Skill 2x 4GB PC3-19200 DDR3 2400MHz Gaming Memory Kit Fast 2400Mhz Timings 10-12-12-31 Trident X Heatsink

    which is the best i can buy ... price are nearly the same ....

    or maybe any other good one i can get

    thanks

    Noel
     
  2. DurgeDriven

    DurgeDriven Banned

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    Hi Noel



    Sandybridge is 1333MHz

    If you not overclocking the 1333MHz CL7 is good or C6 is you can find.

    I would be happy with the G.Skill 1600Mhz C8 @1.5v ( stay away from 1.65v chips)

    My 2500K did 5.1GHz on air with these chips, having said that it would have done the same with 1333

    Though I think those chips only come in blue
    http://www.pccasegear.com/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=186_912&products_id=16934

    If you want colour matching just get these C9
    http://www.pccasegear.com/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=186_912&products_id=16510


    Set XMP profile , either will give you 100% stability and performance.


    BTW: I ran the same memory on P67 and Z77 and soon H97


    P.S. The lower the Timings and Cas generally the more snappier the memory will be.



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    edit: 1 more thing I would consider if you do a lot of heavy work years into future....... I wish I had at the time.

    Save up a bit more, get 2 x 8GB Kit
    You virtually get 20% off the 2nd chip.


    I know 8GB is fine for gaming but if you use 64Bit video and photo editing or say 3DS max I would recommend 16GB now.......... I can't see programs like this using less ram in future only more.

    People advise against 16GB will put a proviso ......... " you can always get another 2 sticks later anyway "
    Which I find a silly proposition in these days, 5 years ago, maybe.............
     
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  3. Spinelli

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    With Sandy Bridge get the lowest timing 1600 MHz ram you can get, 1600 MHz is the sweet spot for Sandy Bridge. The new processors love frequency over timings, generally speaking.

    If you want 8GB, then get this exact model http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820231536&cm_re=ripjaws-_-20-231-536-_-Product

    G.SKILL Ripjaws X Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1600 (PC3 12800) Desktop Memory Model F3-12800CL7D-8GBXM
    - DDR3 1600 (PC3 12800)
    - Timing 7-8-8-24
    - Cas Latency 7
    - Voltage 1.5V

    (not to be confused with the slower F3-12800CL8D-8GBXM model)

    Done, close thread :)

    General rule of thumb regarding RAM "sweet spots":
    Sandy Bridge - 1600 MHz - CL7
    Ivy Bridge - 1866 MHz - CL8
    Haswell - 2133 MHz - CL9

    If you want to get 16GB (2x8GB) then let us know, but if you just a want good gaming computer and nothing too crazy, then 8GB is the current "norm" and just fine.
     
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    Hi

    thanks a lot ... i think i go for the 8gb ram than

    from europe I found only 1 with that model number CL7

    i only found one:
    http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/F3-12800C...ther_Computing_Networking&hash=item4629872e2b

    as the on amazon I just found model with CL9 ... which some said are not ok? ... right?

    http://www.amazon.co.uk/GSkill-1600...eries+Model+F3-12800CL7D-8GBXM#productDetails


    So i need to look for CL7 with 1600Mhz ... to fit better my system ..... (So CL 9 or CL10... No good!!)

    what will be the benifits if i opt to x2 8Gb instead of x2 4Gb .....

    last thing ... I was think pf buy a solid state hard drive ..... do you think
    i would gain also in performance?

    thanks

    Noel
     
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    Hi

    thanks a lot ... i think i go for the 8gb ram than

    from europe I found only 1 with that model number CL7

    i only found one:
    http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/F3-12800C...ther_Computing_Networking&hash=item4629872e2b

    as the on amazon I just found model with CL9 ... which some said are not ok? ... right?

    http://www.amazon.co.uk/GSkill-1600...eries+Model+F3-12800CL7D-8GBXM#productDetails


    So i need to look for CL7 with 1600Mhz ... to fit better my system ..... (So CL 9 or CL10... No good!!)

    what will be the benifits if i opt to x2 8Gb instead of x2 4Gb .....

    last thing ... I was think pf buy a solid state hard drive ..... do you think
    i would gain also in performance?

    thanks

    Noel
     
  7. DurgeDriven

    DurgeDriven Banned

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    Honestly it would do not bother me in your situation.


    C9 will work just as fast , you measure the difference in milliseconds and you can't miss what you don't know about. ? ;)

    If you do extensive overclocking and fresh OSes daily and other stuff for years then yes you will see the difference in C7 to C9.

    In realtime terms it will do NOTHING for rfactor2 performance.

    I would just get the best timings you can find and be done with it, Ripjaws F3 1600-C8 is great.


    SSD are nice if you can afford them.

    They offer a nice boost in start up and most apps, read/write etc.

    In regards to sims apart from the actual loading time they do nothing.

    I like a small separate SSD for Operating System and a WD Black Caviar for my sims.

    When SSD costs about the same as a black Sata I will use them for sims, not before. :)

    If you going to buy get a good one like Samsung Evo.
     
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  8. Spinelli

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    http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/F3-12800C...g&hash=item4629872e2b&clk_rvr_id=714328962179

    Get that if you're going for 8GB, that's the exact RAM I used for my 2500K build. 7-8-8-24 @ 1600MHz. Very nice. However...What is your budget, because I just read another thread where a guy's system was using 7 GB of RAM and a large chunk of that was from rF2 alone. He was using a very large track with many cars, so it may not be the norm (or it may be, depending on your race settings)...I would lean towards the 8GB like Durge said, but depending on your budget and when you plan on upgrading next (1 year? 2 years? 5 years) I would think about the 2x8GB like Durge mentioned....But you may not need that...

    An SSD? Honestly, going to an SSD is the upgrade that you will notice the most out of any upgrade. Everything you do on your PC will be so fast and snappy. Startup times, opening and loading programs, copying and pasting files, level loading in most games (my game levels load so fast, especially in games with long and frequent level-loading like Battlefield) just everything will be fast as hell and instantaneous feeling. Going from a HDD to an SSD is the single most felt-by-the-user upgrade in the entire PC (well besides a large upgrade in GPU, but that is only noticed in gaming).

    For SSDs I would go with either the Samsung 850 Pro (10 year warranty), 840 Pro (5 year warranty), the Sandisk Extreme Pro (10 year warranty) or the Intel 730. They're pretty much the best on the market. Speed-wise, most modern SSDs are so close you won't notice a difference, so you want to look at how the SSDs are made, what sort of parts, chips, etc. they use, and those ones listed are the best.

    If those ones listed above cost too much, then go with either the Samsung Evo or the SanDisk Extreme 2.

    I really, really like the SanDisk Exteme 2 and Extreme Pro. I purchased a Samsung 840 Pro which is one of the very best SSDs money can buy, but don't be fooled by SanDisk - they may be lesser known to many people but they make some of the very best stuff when it comes to storage (they also make some of the very, very best USB sticks on the market too, check out their USB 3.0 "Extreme" and "Extreme Pro" lines).

    NOTE: Do not buy the SSD in 120/128 GB size, they're "crippled" physically, and slower, than the larger sizes. 240/250/256 GB is what I would go for, well, unless you want more space and don't mind spending more money, but 240/250/256 GB is the sweet spot.
     
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