Tire sounds

KeiKei · Oct 30, 2012

kro388th said: ↑

OMG the EXACT same thing has happend to me !! LMAO I sware I had a flat or thought maybe a shock blew out or somthing and pulled off the raod and checked everything in my little BMW ! haha.. it felt so wierd waving all over the road, or so it felt lol.. you have explaned it perfectly !

are we freeks ? wait dont answere that ;-)

got to get out more ...lol
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So glad to hear someone else has experienced it too! Back then there was a moment I thought I've lost it big time... Freaks yes, can't deny it... But at least now it's known what amount of rF2 may be too much.

tjc · Oct 30, 2012

KeiKei said: ↑

Exactly. Even though I hate anything that makes things unrealistic in sims BUT tire sounds and field of view are exceptions. Both "problems" exist because there are no devices to give proper feedback or experience well enough. OK, there might be good enough display systems but those are currently way too expensive at least for my wallet. So we need to compensate. Unrealistic FOV has been proven to be working solution over the years and proper tire sounds can replace big part of missing G-forces and/or give feedback of tires being close to limit.

Some tire sounds in rF2 are excellent but some are quite the opposite. I think Clio is one of the worst - just scrubbing (sand paper) and hardly any squealing. It's very difficult to find the "sweet spot" and be on the limit. I've never heard Clio tire sounds in real life so they may be realistic in the sim but as I tried to justify earlier this is the place where one needs to make right choices. What I'm trying to say is to lose some realism to gain more realism. Choose the less evil from two evils.

I've read that when someone loses his sight then his/her other senses gets sharpened over time - mostly hearing. I strongly believe tire sounds (and other sounds too) in sims are the kind of feedback our brains can easily use to replace missing G-forces, sense of speed, etc. Now that I mentioned speed... Well, actually there is a third thing I'd like to be overdone and that's the wind sound. Not the wind blowing in trees of course but the air flowing around your car/helmet when going fast. When I tested iRacing the first difference I noticed between it and rF2 was wind sound. It may be unrealistic to be that loud but man it created strong immersion of going fast! rF2 head shaking is also great in this area but only to a certain (personal) limit - when going over it turns against itself and possible prevents further gaming on some persons. So by overdoing wind sounds the extreme head shaking could be limited without losing the immersion of terrifying speed.

By the way I actually once experienced this "senses getting sharpened" thing. I bought the rF2 and drove it every single day for two weeks in a row or so. And not just hour or two but more like 10 hours per day. Well, two weeks went by not leaving the house. So I finally went out and hopped into my car. And it was a bizarre experience! Felt like the car was wobbling around like crazy. I was absolutely sure my girlfriend had crashed it into some kerbstone so steering geometry is all fu***d up or some wheel is about to drop off. So I stopped the car and checked things. Nothing was loose and everything seemed to be in order. So I was confused, continued driving and started to analyze things. Everything felt amplified and weird. It was kind of like walking on land after a long boat-trip to ocean when you feel earth moving under your feet up and down - left and right - back and forth. It felt that stupid really! And only thing I could think of was that I must have been so deeply adapted to rF2 that my "motion-senses" had become overly sensitive (brains trying to adapt to weak/zero motion feedback). And no, there is no "cocaine is a helluva drug" or "all mushrooms are eatable" here.

Oh and I believe it was the same period when had this odd vision thing after using Real Head Motion plugin for long period of time and then changing back to original ISI head movement. With Real Head Motion 1 plugin when you jump onto brakes your virtual head tilts forward and you have to raise your eyes to keep your vision level. I got so adapted to this behaviour that after moving back to original ISI's functionality my eyes looked up into the blue sky every single time I touched the brake pedal. I think you can imagine how stupid that felt too!

So I think brains have amazing capabilities for adaptation when they get proper feedback to adapt to.

"I reject your reality and substitute my own" - Adam Savage (or was it ISI/rF2? )
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Informative and entertaining post KeiKei.

Liked the plumber post too...

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