Old Can Am Tracks

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  1. davehenrie

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    I found my old Can Am books and have been Jonesing some of the old circuits. I know we have many of the tracks used by the series, but many of them are newer versions. I know GPL had most of these, but I'm not familiar with rF2's inventory.
    (need versions from around 1970)
    Laguna Seca, Road Atlanta, Watkins Glen, are there old versions anywhere?

    (not sure any of these exist)
    Texas Speedway Roval(used to have this in GTR2)Found This!
    Michigan Roval
    Ontario California Roval (oval is a clone of early 70's Indianapolis, Roval is different)
    Edmonton(not the Champcar Edmonton)
    Las Vegas(not the F1 city track or the idt Champcar layout)
    Donnybrooke (Brainerd International Raceway) Missed this in my first posting. It's available for rF1 and GTR2. I haven't seen it in rF2.
    Pacific Raceway Park was scheduled to host Can Am but bailed due to cost. (GTR2/rF1/AC)


    Bridgehampton, Mid Ohio, Mosport, Ste Jovite(trembling mtn) Riverside, Road America(Elkhart Lake) are probably ok in current forms
     
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    I remember driving only once or twice the GPL version of Road Atlanta. I could not make heads nor tails of it because the newer layout was stuck in my head. (something about a dip is also floating in the grey mist) Also I remember 70's Watkins Glen with a very difficult to setup and even more difficult to drive Mclaren mod for GPL.
     
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    Original Laguna Seca...what a circuit!
    (with Dave Despain!)
     
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    That footage from 1967 was the circuit used by Can Am. There was no Andretti hairpin and the entire infield complex of turns is bypassed.(or actually didn't even exist at that time.) I would love to find that layout again....something I again remember from either GTR2 or GPL.

    The Can Am cars in the Danny Sullivan piece, were actually open wheel cars with aero bodies placed over the top. Maybe old Indycar, or F5000, can't recall. It was in that type of car Al Unser Jr. won his first Championship(I think) before graduating to Indycar.
     
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    Most of these old circuits have not been recreated. Even the TMS one is not correct for the period, but at least it's close. You really don't want to use those old GPL circuits as they're, well, dated visually.
     
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    Understood, just trying to give what little info I have about them. I think I have put some laps on Brainerd, but with a Superbike sim.
     
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    And beating the dead horse some more. The Las Vegas track was called Stardust International Raceway. I think it was an extensiion out into the desert from the Stardust Casino's parking lot.
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    Nearly 5 miles from the casino and the Las Vegas strip, out in the desert to the east where gravel mining took place and most of the roads were dirt. There was nothing else out there at the time! These days, it's multiple suburban housing developments begun in the '70s. Here's an historic aerial image overlay on modern Las Vegas, with the old Vegas strip casinos pinned and I've circled the Stardust Hotel.
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    I've got the beginnings of an rF1 version using aerial LIDAR data for the terrain (site has a mild slope), but it's still going to take me forever to get it converted & released. Very bare bones. I'm so much better at research than construction!

    P.S. Caesar's Palace was the site of the parking lot F1 adventure in the '80s...
     
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    Ah! Thanks! Just a couple of weeks ago, I noticed a large gravel/sand pit outside one of the Road America corners, (#3 I think) Makes me wonder, how many of these tracks were located out in the boonies and were never considered prime real-estate. Up here in Spokane, we had a fairly well known regional Motocross track, Hangman hills. 20 minutes out of town. Suburbs came, surrounded it and noise complained it out of existence. Still can see a few of the lines when you drive by. Good think Can Am ran in the fall, imagine those giant engines racing in the desert in summer time!
     
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    Edmonton Klondike 200
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    Can-Am WAS going to use the racetrack at Kent Washington for the very first race in 1966. But the track either wouldn't or couldn't come up with the prize money required to host a Can Am event. The prize money was such that even F1 drivers felt they could earn more in 6 races than an entire season of F1.
    Pacific Raceway/Seattle International Raceway was made for both GTR2 and rF1, but I'm not aware of a version for rF2. The track is still active to this day for drag racing, motorcycle races and club events.
    Trans Am, which featured many of the Can Am drivers, raced there several times.
    Simtraxx for AC seems to have a paid version.
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    this track was the home track for the movie The Art of Racing in the Rain. They made good use of it. The track looks very clubish. (club-like?) During the movie (which I just watched last night for the first time) Got to see several cars including about 2 seconds of the Nissan/Ligier DPI. Old Ferrari convertible, and the Ferrari 458(which I prefer merely due to auditory values over the 488) And a pack of Turner BMWs.
     

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