New wheel: FFB seems way off.

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  1. Navigator

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    Hi guys,

    Haven't played the game for a while as I didn't like the FFB the last few years. To me it seemed like driving on "wooden wheels" a lot.
    So, now I have invested in a new wheel and I wanted to start-up the old love again as it made bad FFB games feel actually a lot better.
    This game though: is even worse with the new wheel.
    It is a Fanatec and they have some info on how to set their stuff up for all games: copied that and everything else I could find, but no solution there.
    Now it's like driving on wooden wheels through gravel and no proper effects of anything else.

    In fact, it's so bad, I can think there is something horribly wrong. But all other games, are good.
    Now in the old days of this game, there were some settings: you knew if you were hanging around here, make them and your game is fine. The oldtimers will remember ;)
    Some things you knew you had to set first in order to get decent......well, fill in what you want. Graphics, FFB, or anything else.

    So my question: am I missing something here, am I even missing the obvious?
     
  2. Lazza

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    @Navigator Fanatec recommended settings are the worst. Search here for other people asking, you'll find recommendations for settings that work much better.
     
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    Thanks Lazza, but even here on the forums, there's no real solution, I tried a lot.
     
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    You mean you found and tried various wheel settings? Can you share what you're using and what you tried?
     
  5. Bernat

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    What's your reference of good FFB? Real car driving or some other game?
     
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    Thanks for the response guys!
    As a matter of fact, I do know how a racer feels, but I'm not comparing it to that; that would be silly.
    And I don't have a good definition of how good FFB should feel, but I compare it to other games: most of them, you can feel a lot of slip.
    On that, you can feel the brakes, sliding, understeer, oversteer and so on: you know what I mean, right?
    For this game, there is very, very little feel, almost none. To give you an idea: at first I thought I had the saturation completely wrong.
    It's almost dead with just a bit of rumbling. When you do a 360, there is some feel......

    As for the things I tried: I found various settings, mainly for the wheel as there is not a very lot to alter in the game itself.
    For the game I tried a custom made profile as well as the Fanatec profile that is in the game.

    I began with the settings I found at the Fanatec site as I said and then I altered them.
    Those alterations/ other than the Fanatec settings, I didn't write them down and so I can't remember all of them, but I will show what I have been doing a bit, to start with the Fanatec settings and write behind it what I did alter:

    Tuning Menu Settings:
    SEN AUT
    (or 1080, 900, 540, 360, whatever the car itself said too)
    FF 45 (higher, lower, even set it to 100%)
    FFS Lin (both Peak and linear)
    NDP 16 (damper, sliding the most with this one, from 0 to 100)
    NFR 2 (same as damper)
    NIN 8 (also)
    INT 5 (lowered it mostly, but even raising it didn't do much)
    FEI 100 (these and the ones below, also all the way from 0 to 100)
    FOR 100
    SPR 100
    DPR Off (tried it at high too)

    In-Game Settings:
    Car Specific FFB Mult: Very important to find the right value per car. Between 50 and 75 works well for most cars.
    FFB Smoothing: User Preference
    FFB Minimum Torque: 0

    Also I threw out the controller.json, started over, set the steering torque and so on.
    The installation is new, W10 is a week old and I installed rF2 just from Steam and didn't put my own settings from files in there.
    So to see, there was nothing saved on Steam also as everything was different than I had it before, so no old settings in there.
    rF2 version is 1133.
     
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    not your issue, but it may crop up. Set saturation=0 for steering.
    "Steering resistance saturation":0,
    "Steering resistance saturation#":"Saturation value to use for steering resistance. Range: 0 - 1.0",
     
  10. mesfigas

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    if i remember correct DD wheel users uses a lot of smoothing...something like 10 to dial out the grainy feel
    also there is a setting that we dont talk too much here on forum which is locating at the Settings-Steering settings-Roatation limit mode.
    it has 2 options that gives somewaht different feel
    the 1.software setting and 2.device driver.
    in case you want to swith from one to another you must reboot game.
    i use csl elite and found myself change thaty setting many times until i found that rf2 has a weird bug that needs to reboot game sometimes to dial out the grainy FFB feel
    i hope i help you
    it takes sometime to decide which one to use but some other people here can help us with that especially Fanatec users
     
  11. Radkappe

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    @Navigator
    these are my settings (also dd1). may be this a starting point ..

    car multiplier varies from car to car
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