Released Latest GT3 Updates (Includes BOP)

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  1. AlexHeuskat

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    sorry to ask this, but for s397 devs:
    Can you please make the set per vehicle option realistic for the wheel rotation???
    The gt3s in your game have a generic 540.
    They are not at all at 540 in the real life.
    It's your job to add the real life wheel rotation with the correct steering ratio by default, it's not me who have to adjust it manually.

    Thank you very much, rf2 should have this for a more realistic way.
    AMS 2 has a wrong wheel rotation too but it's a bad game. Only ACC has the correct wheel rotation matching the real life.

    I help you, I show you the real life wheel rotation.
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    Same for the GTE.
     
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  2. J7166

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    I'm sure they'll get right on that
     
  3. AlexHeuskat

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    When?
    I can do it if they want. It should not take too much time.
     
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    you give too many turns to realism, you seem the same with the caster, .... enjoy the simulator and stop weird stories.
    most of the gt3 competition cars do not have more than 540º, even less...
     
  5. juanchioooo

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    you confuse street cars with competition
     
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    I think Raffaele Marciello's Mercedes does not turn the steering wheel even 540º in the last corner or in the first
     
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    In addition, it also created that when rfactor acquires a license, it will enter the official data that the manufacturer passes to them, I do not think that the rfactor data will be invented.
     
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    Where's that list from?

    While I can agree that all cars having 540 seems unlikely (possible, but not likely) I also doubt Porsche GT3s are racing with 800 degrees lock to lock.
     
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    I think those are numbers pulled from ACC.
     
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    Yeah, to be fair I googled porsche rotation lock and found that whole list (as copied above) on some ACC related site. And I can't really rule out that they're correct, even if drivers never get anywhere near that while driving.

    Still, not sure another game is a good reference either. But no one cares about where they get their info these days :D
     
  11. AlexHeuskat

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    ACC wheel rotation are all the same as the real life, they have the info directly from the brands.
    https://simracingsetup.com/assetto-corsa/acc-steering-lock-settings/
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    acc.jpg

    And of course, the wheel rotation is related to steering ratio, and it needs to be adjusted too.
    The generic 540° is another lack of polish for a game like rF2....it feels awfull for a game which pretends a high simulation level.
     
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  12. Lazza

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    @AlexHeuskat what do you think of this list?

    Porsche GT3 - 524°
    Mercedes AMG GT3 - 400°
    McLaren 720S GT3 - 538°
    BMW M6 GT3 - 566°
    Aston Martin Vantage GT3 - 514°
    Audi RS LMS GT3 - 560°
    Bentley Continental GT3 - 540°
     
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    Tracklimits ?!? :confused:

    Serious, if steering ratio isn't correct better not ask about stuff like suspension geometry or aero mapping.
    I'm wondering what data, manufacturer are willing to share, even with the promise of secrecy.
     
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    Tracklimits?!? ..... just right or short the curve, the brands are very jealous of the data,... but it makes me laugh Alex ...
    By the way, if the data, according to that website, is real and ACC has the real data,
    rfactor, where do you get your data from the supermarket on the corner? @Paul Jeffrey

    the question is almost rhetorical
     
  15. AlexHeuskat

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    not accurate.
     
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    You don't recognise it?

    That's the rF2 steering locks for those cars. I would have listed the Ferrari but I didn't buy it.

    *PS: are the ACC cars also the correct steering ratios? Have you compared to the rF2 steering ratios?
     
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    for me rf2 only has the gt3 with 540 with the set per vehicle option, maybe an issue ??? but it's not accurate.
    ACC have the real ones, the cars are very well polished and extremely close to the reality.
     
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    I had a quick look for onboard videos as steering lock specs for the race cars doesn't seem easy to find (maybe you've had more luck than me?). Of course then you also need to find when the car is going very slowly, as most track corners are too fast to need more than ~160 degrees of input anyway. And still an observed rotation doesn't make it the maximum, but at least it can rule out lower values.

    Anyway, I found a Porsche GT3 onboard with a rotating wheel graphic (actual wheel mostly out of shot) at Macau, which is a good one thanks to the hairpin. There the wheel was shown at about 315deg of rotation, not moving - so quite possibly at full lock. So 630 lock to lock in that configuration.

    Can you share what you've found regarding the real life steering lock of these cars? I know you won't be blindly trusting ACC.
     
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    I don't know about GT3 regulations, but several series allow different steering boxes to be used at certain tracks. Monaco and F1 for example.
     

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