ISI vs Modders - Realism vs Easy Control - 911 street cars and Escort MK2 RS1800 1.1

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  1. fpatitucci

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    I bought rF2 cos in my opinion (and may be a fact) is the best Sim available. As a user I fell obligated to post what I think about the game cos I know it is very important to them the feedback ! On rF1 I fell the car navigating on the road but on rF2 i can feel a lot more the contact of the tires on the road. Do you guys fell the same? So I don´t play rF1 anymore. As I am not much into those new moderns F1 Automan cars and GTR cars, there are not much option on rF2 for me once I prefer modders cars over ISI cars because the behave of the car under power sides and drift are much more realists cos you will spin when it should. So I prefer the Escort mk2 RS1800 1.1 over ISI Corvettes. Witch one you guys thing have the most realistic physics? As I am more into simulation I am expecting the new 911, street, historic and muscle cars to be more like the mk2. But it is good to have the others cars for the casual players.
     
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    In rF2 the ISI cars are more realistic than the mods. Nothing to worry here!
    Want a challenge? Take the AC cobra!
    Don´t expect many street-cars to come! There are a few but it wont become much more!
    Yes.
     
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    ok. I will try the cobra. I remember the cobra (historic gt) on rF1 to be very hard to slide and drift. I tiny mistake and you spin and crash. that´s what I like cos for me racing is all about precision !

    Don´t expect many street-cars to come! that's sad news. I waited 3 yes to buy the game because the lack of cars I like. I bought the game for the brabham 66. I played gp legends a lot and and brabham 66, EVE and Spark are great. First time on track and I was thinking: I an not gonna work anymore, not gonna take shower anymore... I'm just gonna be driving those cars for forever lol ! And I and up liking the corvette gtr too (Great stuff). I also like the Corvette street too cos it's much better then any other game i tested. And I am happy with the RS1800 too ! But that's it ! Maybe we can expect some 70's f1. My favorite on rf1 are F1 1971 and 1979. Once you rF guys have the best race sim... more cars means more people buying the game :)
     
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    I tested the corvette RS1800 and the cobra and as a real race driver I can tell that those ISI cars behave very well. On normal driving its the best physics out there but... when sliding and drifting, the car behave arcade as hell. On Mount panorama bathurst's left downhill hairpin should be very easy to spin a RWD historic powerful car like the cobra. But it never happens. Tried slides on the last and first corners. hand brake then throttle but the car never spins... it just keep going on sideways for forever. The zr1 is the same. half physics real simulation and half arcade as hell. I have all driving aids off but still something holding the rear of the car. But the RS1800 is near to perfection on every aspect. The car spins when it should. So it fells very real. The immersion is fantastic. Its weird on the same game huge differences on car physics. In my opinion when you want to drive but the car does not behave like a real car, you are not driving anything. You are just loosing time and fooling yourself. Make real physics ISI... let the players crash hard :)
     
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    Pray tell what sim do you suggest I go fool myself with and not waste time in. ?



    ..........this'll be good.

    lool
     
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    Sideways for ever? Arcade as hell? Are we talking of the same proggi?
    Sure you don´t have any driving-aids on that you overlooked?
    Can you describe it more in detail please?
     
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    Would be my thoughts too. If you can't slide the cobra with the throttle, something must be interfering
     
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    @animal.

    what do you race?
     
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    ISI vs Modders - Realism vs Easy Control - 911 street cars and Escort MK2 RS1...

    When I asked about never spinning the BT20 people told me bias ply tires are ultra forgiving but I still have to wonder.

    On the subject of Escort I have to say that vehicle is amazing (with serious potential to be one of my favorites) but has been awhile since I drive it because very poor optimization.

    Anyone know if has been optimized?
     
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    so RF2 has arcade physics, when going near limit? like pcars lol

    sorry couldnt help myself...

    but seriously...

    as mentioned above can we elaborate please?
     
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    I can hardly not spin the cobra so yeah. Something is interfering for sure, some kind of driving aid, stability assist or whatever.


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    I got the rs1800 into rf2 thanks to a modding friend who basically put it in game for me, another well known track maker/modder added lights at my request, I requested the car as I owned a mk2 1600 and specced it up. I know for a fact no real data was used. However it does have great wieght transfer and like its real world counter part it oversteers a lot, but believe me, no real physics went into this car, and its 6 speed gearbox was ( correct me if I'm wrong ) never in the original. It is what it is a hell of a lot of fun to drive, but give me any isi cars physics over this type of mod if you want to be sure at least some numbers or data has been crunched.
     
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    Grip of cobra's and street car's tyres doesn't necessarily drop in a same way as race car's tyres grip, when car starts to slide. In real life i mean.
     
  14. Spinelli

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    Can someone link me to the RS1800 and the most current version of it? I hate searching through so many threads and I can't find anything about the car from doing a search in the top right search bar. The TPM section is also quite obscure and extremely under-utilized :(
     
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    Sorry for your pain Spinelli, the most up to date version is on the notes section of my fb page. Its another grey area mod as its taken from another old title. If you don't do fb I will pm you the link.
     
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    No worries, Steve. I'd love if you could PM me the link, thanks!
     
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    @PRC Steve tried the Escort again wow that is a great car. Would be great if the modder would optimize it or allow someone else to...
     
  18. Nazirull Safry Paijo

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    I tried it for the first time just now n omg..amazing.
     
  19. Animal Driver

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    ok..ok..ok ! I Explain. See how car behaves when pushing hard: Skip barber
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MopRYmSpl0Y
    On ISI version I can drive on laguna seca last corner like the cops on movies. I can scand.flick and power slide it easily... which is impossible in real life.
    Historic gt rF1 is 5 stars rating mod everywhere... it´s very accurate. try to slide and drift the cobra of this mod then compare to ISI rF2. The ISI physics on the limit is pure science fiction. it's like driving the Lamborghini on Automan 1983. But it´s a great game tho ! My favorite. And you don´t need to drive the default car. You can use modders tools to modify physics and create your own casr :)
     
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  20. Nazirull Safry Paijo

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    Try the Escort in Sepang! Its pure joy! Plus the bumps that ISI haf adjusted recently makes it really really a nice experience.

    Oh. And use clutch n hshifter!
     

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