ffb problems with endurance pack

Discussion in 'Technical & Support' started by Rok Bedekovic, Jun 19, 2018.

  1. Rok Bedekovic

    Rok Bedekovic Registered

    Joined:
    Nov 16, 2015
    Messages:
    3
    Likes Received:
    0
    win10, t300rs(latest updates, also tried with previous update)

    problem:
    only feel that i have is oversteer, no understeer or tire lock ups, no surface effect, so just oversteer. with gt3 pack i get everything just not with endurance pack.

    tried:
    checked for updates, reinstalled rf2, checked and tried tons of settings for my wheel ingame and thrustmaster control panel.
     
  2. Rok Bedekovic

    Rok Bedekovic Registered

    Joined:
    Nov 16, 2015
    Messages:
    3
    Likes Received:
    0
    am i only one with this p roblem?
     
  3. Lazza

    Lazza Registered

    Joined:
    Oct 5, 2010
    Messages:
    5,333
    Likes Received:
    1,545
    Can you describe the problem a little more? When you say you can feel oversteer, do you mean the wheel turns into a slide?

    If that's the case, what are you feeling beforehand? Does the wheel centre itself down straights? What is your vehicle-specific-FFB set to? Have you tried checking the FFB output (using DAMPlugin or some other method) to make sure it's not clipping? (though then I doubt you'd feel oversteer)

    As much info as you can provide will help.
     
  4. ADSTA

    ADSTA Registered

    Joined:
    Nov 19, 2011
    Messages:
    999
    Likes Received:
    614
    You could try deleting (or preferably cut and paste somewhere like desktop) the Controller.json in the Userdata folder
    and any controller profile json's you have made in Controller folder.
    Not at pc so those locations locations might be correct.
     
  5. davehenrie

    davehenrie Registered

    Joined:
    Jul 6, 2016
    Messages:
    1,067
    Likes Received:
    563
    have you turned off the abs and tc and set both to the lowest setting in-car? And have you tried several cars in the GT3 pak? The Merc has a different feel than the Mclaren/Corvette/Bent.
     
  6. ceecee

    ceecee Registered

    Joined:
    Jan 10, 2012
    Messages:
    663
    Likes Received:
    240
    We had the same oversteer problem until we realised that one has to change both front tyres as well as rears.
     
  7. Rok Bedekovic

    Rok Bedekovic Registered

    Joined:
    Nov 16, 2015
    Messages:
    3
    Likes Received:
    0
    gt3 are fine with feel.... problem is with endurance cars. there is no understeer or slip angle to feel.
    wheel is self centering and its not clipping. ive tried different specific car ffb but didnt help at all, also smoothing and low torque. after the update i tried the new stuff in controller.json but its the same.
    the force in the wheel is the same when im braking or/and turning thus i feel no difference when understeer starts or stops, also slip angle is nowhere to be found. oversteer is fine but i hate when i have no feel on the front tires at all.... so i have to drive by sound which i dont like so i deleted the game and now with this update i installed back and tried if its any different. still no difference with front tires.
    i even looked into the wheel if sensor and magnet are in place. new firmware installed which was released a few days ago i think.
    i was worried that i might have problems because of win10 drivers but other games are fine and gt3 cars are fine also, so i dont understand if these cars drive like this but my friends are saying they feel slip angle but understeer is subtle. now im lost completly
     
  8. mesfigas

    mesfigas Registered

    Joined:
    Oct 15, 2015
    Messages:
    838
    Likes Received:
    403
    i was about to ask people if they feel that something goes wrong with Norma FFB but i was thinking it might be my T150 wheel
    while i m breaking there is a spot that the revs goes down instantly and i loose the the force from the FFB
    its like i m turning the engine key from ON to OFF
    that kind of feel
    and it happens only while i m breaking and trying to go left or right
    very weird symptom of FFB
    only happens to Norma the rest cars of GT3 or GTE dont have that problem
     
  9. Jakal

    Jakal Registered

    Joined:
    Oct 30, 2017
    Messages:
    15
    Likes Received:
    27
    If/when I slam through the gears downshifting, this can sometimes happen.
    I think it's an ECU thing, and may be working as it should...?...

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Engine_control_unit
     
    mesfigas likes this.
  10. mesfigas

    mesfigas Registered

    Joined:
    Oct 15, 2015
    Messages:
    838
    Likes Received:
    403
    thanks for answer mate
    i was really worried why this car reacts like that under breaking !!!!
    my whole force feedback goes bye bye until i lift my foot from break pedal and FFB comes back to life
     
  11. mesfigas

    mesfigas Registered

    Joined:
    Oct 15, 2015
    Messages:
    838
    Likes Received:
    403
    @Jakal its ECU for sure
    it must be doing some fuel saving efficiency but it messes with my FFB a bit
    i can control it but i have to learn drive this car
    it is not like driving a normal GT3 car
    Norma is special type of car
    i must learn it
     
  12. Jakal

    Jakal Registered

    Joined:
    Oct 30, 2017
    Messages:
    15
    Likes Received:
    27
    @mesfigas I think it has more to do with cutting out so the car is not destroyed with hard downshifts.

    It's definitely not like a GT3.
    It's an entry level prototype. It's more akin to a modern open wheel car, with a body around it and closed cockpit, than it is to a GT3.

    I just finished a series in the LMP3s. 8 races over some months now.
    It took some time, but after I got in touch with the car, I find it to be one of the best sim cars out there.
    After a few laps to warm it up, there's a confidence I have "on the edge" in this car that is lacking in many others.
    Definitely on of my favorites!
     
    mesfigas likes this.
  13. mesfigas

    mesfigas Registered

    Joined:
    Oct 15, 2015
    Messages:
    838
    Likes Received:
    403
    @Jakal
    Norma is very interesting car
     
  14. Korva7

    Korva7 Registered

    Joined:
    May 22, 2014
    Messages:
    593
    Likes Received:
    107
    mesfigas what you are saying sounds more like locking the front tyres to me. Maybe the difference is not having abs?
     
    Jakal likes this.
  15. mesfigas

    mesfigas Registered

    Joined:
    Oct 15, 2015
    Messages:
    838
    Likes Received:
    403
    @Korva7
    i ll test it again with more abs cause i can remember how much of abs i had when i tested
     
  16. mesfigas

    mesfigas Registered

    Joined:
    Oct 15, 2015
    Messages:
    838
    Likes Received:
    403
    @Korva7
    and yes high setting on ABS makes problem disappear !!!!
     
    Korva7 likes this.
  17. Korva7

    Korva7 Registered

    Joined:
    May 22, 2014
    Messages:
    593
    Likes Received:
    107
    OK :)

    These new cars (gt3, gte and others) has proper abs and traction control setting in the garage setup if they have those in real life. So gt3 for examble has tc and abs turned on as stock, even if you turn those off from difficulty settings.
     
    Last edited: Dec 5, 2018
  18. Jakal

    Jakal Registered

    Joined:
    Oct 30, 2017
    Messages:
    15
    Likes Received:
    27
    GTE does not use ABS in the real world, but they do have TC.
    LMP3 doesn't allow for TC or ABS.
     
    jayarrbee36 likes this.

Share This Page