[REL] Endurance Series rF2

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  1. AceLain

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    exactly, it should lock when the ABS is OFF. (especially with cold tires, green track and low downforce)
    Other then that the mod is superb !

    (and I feel the same thing with the Flat6 by the way)
     
  2. MaD_King

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    I understood the opposite of what you explained, sorry. Will look about that, I had in my memory lock when I tested, but will test again for a future evolution and possible improvement. Noted.

     
  3. borbor

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    Actually technically you couldchange the setup on line pressure by changing the size of the M/C and the pedal motion ratio. Obviously, no one rolls the car out of the truck to make those changes track side, but it could be done ;)

    After spending more than a few hours over the course of the weekend trying to figure out one car I do have the following comments:
    1) P2 cars are just a bit too forgiving at a fairly "high" yaw rate. I don't know if it's the aero of the model, or the tire model with the Fy (on the Fy/SA curve) still fairly high at a point past the peak, but any time the car is going loose at T17 / T1 at sebring, it should be a huge "oh ****" moment, not a "la dee da" let me just dial out a bit of input to drive it moment. At least for a downforce car that should be the case.

    2) this is probably more of a function of the tires and not the mod itself; the rear tire pressures if they're not being investigated, should be. If you run the DAMPlugin and do some basic math on the rear surface and rubber temp, you'll see something interesting :)

    3) Front / rear track as displayed in the garage menu for the Oreca 03, should not have front track width = rear track width.
     
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  4. BecauseRaceCar

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    The mod in rfactor 1 uses a locked value of 100% brake pressure by default. Hard to lock the tires in the rfactor version, not much of a surprise as the physics of the cars are mostly of the rfactor 1 mod minus the tires. Due to these lacking physics this mod provides in current state, you don't get much or any real feeling in the wheel of what the car is doing.
     
  5. TheLeadWolf

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    That's what I suspected. It is a great start however, I am guessing this will be addressed in the future release. It is very noticeable after you get to experience other mods, and difficult to swallow. I originally was supportive of rF1 tire model in rF2, but this is first time I am seeing that it might not be a good idea. I am not saying this mod is rF1 tire model, just that it is difficult to go back to simpler implementations.
     
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  6. RoWo

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    I can lock up my tires!
     
  7. Gijs van Elderen

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    To my understanding: you set the brake pressure according to your brake loadcell. For example if you have 75kg loadcell, you set 100%(=75kg) in the car setup. If you have a 60kg loadcell you set 80%(=60kg) in the car setup. It's to get the 1/1 feel with high-end pedals.

    I have to agree with most people. The brakes on the cars feel to weak to properly modulate your brakes. I need to press 100% until the last few meters.

    Don't know if enduracers have access to data and the forces brakes can produce.

    But still i'm enjoying the rides. :)
     
  8. Freddy3792

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    The brake torque is just a lot lower on these cars. The ISI Corvette has nearly twice as powerful brakes as the ER version. Would love to see that change in the future. You can only lock up if you add some turn in otherwise really hard to lock up.
     
  9. ucfquattroguy

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    After the initial release, the Flat6 Cup cars had a similar issue. V2.0 must've increased brake torque quite a bit because threshold braking is now much more difficult but WAY more rewarding. Gives the car a completely different feel under braking.

    A bit more brake torque should do the trick. Otherwise the cars feel phenomenal. By far the best GT cars available in rF2 currently IMO. While the tire is quite forgiving with how you're able to "play rough" with it, you still must respect it like a real world racing tire with regards to your steering and throttle inputs.
     
  10. Nazirull Safry Paijo

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    Well...i can kinna use the rf1 scenes for now...
     
  11. Marc Collins

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    +1
     
  12. Flaux

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    To be honest for now I'm happy that people don't complain about the rf1 low speed turn in oversteer stuff they were moaning about the last 10 years of the mod. Haha. ;-)
     
  13. MaD_King

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    For sure not, new tires model to learn (and no finished), aero reworked, weight transfers adjusted, chassis flex added, FFB & wheel parameters adjusted, and brakes adjusted too (what a surprise), but you think what you want ;)
    For the v1.0, with information we have, free time we have for modding, knowledge we acquire about rF2 features and limited support we have from ISI, we are not able to give a better result without delaying the release of the v1.0, so we consider the version is quite good to use in this state for racing and decide to release it. So like already said, some elements will be dig for the v2.0 like we done on the Flat6.
    Free modding, not paid guys, few support, so we progress step by step with time we have, perhaps the v2 will take long time to be release because some think all need to be perfect from non professional modders ... or perhaps there will be no v2.0 with these kind of blind comments ...

    Seriously, some must be have in mind the effort to get this state of mod before making comments without constructive information like that ... And some ask why there is less and less free modders ...
     
  14. sg333

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    The mod is excellent MaD_King, read the pages and pages of positive comments and ignore the obvious troll :)
     
  15. Nitrometh

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    Yep this mod is absolutely fantastic. Thank you so much for your hard work. You have spent so much time to create this beautiful mod for free. We really really appreciate your work guys. Cheers

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  16. Nibo

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    I can lock the tires. Its more difficult to do than in some other rF2 cars, but I think thats more or less how it should be. Not locking on every braking, but only when I brake late/hard or miss the corner.

    One observation, Ginetta Zytek 09S has constant non-stop exhaust pop sounds on braking/downshifting. Dont` know if thats how you planned it or how it should be.
     
  17. marmagas

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    Top quality mod,great effort,keep up,ignore the troll!
     
  18. MaD_King

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    Sorry, but non constructive critics made me out compared to the time passed to develop and test on free time. Will not try to feed the toll ;) . Thank you to remind me some like to only troll.
    We are happy to get constructive feedback to improve things, so no problem to get feedback with detailed informations, nothing is perfect (and will never be perfect).
     
  19. Eddy

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    For now MaD_King, perfect or not you guys gave me such an enjoyable mod that i even don't practise for my league race because i keep lappingwith these cars
     
  20. marmagas

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