Right but your average Joe public does not know all this technical stuff about why one sim looks better than the other. They can only go by what they see in the video and also I am just using iRacing as reference as this is the sim that is used here. Isn't pCARS using dynamic lighting? Don't they manage to get a dynamic looking image? I prefer iRacing visually again to pCARS, iRacing is the best looking sim still for me but pCARS still manages to look good. Even in your video Tim and screens, rF2 is looking flat, maybe lack of decent skyboxes in rF2 don't help things either.