Assetto Corsa Respectful Comparison

[o0thx11380o]

Probably not. The general consensus is that it's really not as good as expected.

Considering it uses slightly modified Race07 tire model and physics.... it's not that great. A lot of people don't believe that is does, but think about race07 next time you play it. The feeling and look of how the cars behave is just about identical. Also they said that it is gmotor2 physics engine in a vid or online a while back. I think simbin made a terrible mistake with not going all out and creating a next gen GTR 3.

 

[TIG_green]

Spent 7.5 hrs with it last night and another 2 today, the more I play it the more I get disappointed and bored with it's physics.

Maybe Kunos did a good job in making going around a corner at fairly high speeds nice and natural, but driving a car hard and all it's micro movements and dynamics is 1000000x more dynamic in reallife and in RFactor, than Assetto Corsa. Even Kunos' previous title, Netkar Pro, felt more high-fidelic and dynamic/"free" in it's physics than Assetto Corsa, it's not pure sim-cade, but it's not a true 100% hardcore sim.

I can see why most ppl think it's the most amazing thing ever though (just read all the other forums and Youtube comments), SADLY.

How do you have so much time to drive AC (I only have total of 4-6 hours per week for sims)

Imo no point in using that much time testing this early version of AC... wait few updates and then do the test again... more fair that way.

 

[brabham67]

From Assetto Corsa's Facebook page...

Assetto Corsa on Steam Early Access - A successful launch!

In the launch weekend, the new PC racing game "Assetto Corsa", produced by KUNOS Simulazioni and distribuited on Steam Early Access has reached the top seller rankings on Steam, just behind Call of Duty Ghosts, keeping the top five position for all the weekend, and it conquered the first position in the racing genre. This first beta version has been very well welcomed by gamers and simracers, who have shared great feedback, very positive comments and suggestions. A result that exceeded the best expectations of the Assetto Corsa dev team, that is already working on the next release, ready to be launched on November 22th, and that will include updates, new features, 3 new cars and 2 new tracks.

 

[I3bullets]

if somebody starts posting the Rfactor 2 physics errors in build 49 the list could be kilometric.

if somebody starts posting the Rfactor 2 graphycal errors in build 49 the list could be mulargametric.
(...)
the thing is, that something makes me think that we will not have to wait two years to see Asseto corsa in all his glory.

You know what bugs me? Have a look at the tabs of the two web sites:

"rFactor|The Future of Race Simulation" vs "Assetto Corsa | Your racing simulation. The most realistic PC racing simulation."

See? Whereas ISI is somewhat modest AC claims to ALREADY BE the most realistic simulation. Obviously false claims as it stands now.
Before the release they kept advertising by showing mostly screenshots, nevertheless in the minds of people the game became the "Holy Grail". The notion of a full release was kept alive until BOOM there was the "beta". And all people say is "Just wait how good this sim will be!"
To me AC is the "sim with the most promises yet to be fulfilled".

 

[Luc Devin]

AC has the graphics front and have a wider public, then it is quite normal that the rest is waiting.

ISI highlighted physics, FFB, AI, multiplayer and graphics later, as they were also announced.

The two there will be advanced so patience
rFactor2 is before two years, the comparison is not credible to me.

So as I say, everyone has expectations.

Me is the multiplayer missing, then no purchase for now see the price / quality ratio.

 

[Hedlund_90]

Hedlund, I've read from the AC forum that to counter the deadzone they advise you to use the ingame damping and set it to around .15 (offcourse tweakable for your own feeling). Have you also tried that?
Don't know how it scales compared to the Logitech Profiler damping offcourse but just an idea

I guess it's the same as adjusting in Logitech Profiles, because as I said I got rid of the deadzone by doing so But of course I can try the in-game damping too. Thanks.

 

[Digi Lauda]

I guess it's the same as adjusting in Logitech Profiles, because as I said I got rid of the deadzone by doing so But of course I can try the in-game damping too. Thanks.

Both has to be enabled. Dampening in the profiler does nothing without commands from the game and the commands from the game are doing nothing when dampening is disabled in the profiler.

 

[Hedlund_90]

Both has to be enabled. Dampening in the profiler does nothing without commands from the game and the commands from the game are doing nothing when dampening is disabled in the profiler.

Probably true... I had the in game damping to 0.15 so that's probably why the changes to logitech profiler made a difference. Now I have increased in game damping to 0.50 and the feeling is much improved. Thanks.

 

[liebestod]

You know what bugs me? Have a look at the tabs of the two web sites:

"rFactor|The Future of Race Simulation" vs "Assetto Corsa | Your racing simulation. The most realistic PC racing simulation."

See? Whereas ISI is somewhat modest AC claims to ALREADY BE the most realistic simulation. Obviously false claims as it stands now.

Hate Budweiser because you dislike the beer -- not because it claims to be the King of Beers.

 

[Denstjiro]

Indeed, any developer/company will place its product as better/more advanced/tastier/next gen/future/more buttons/elite/etc.

It don't say anything about the product and if advertising is the thing peeps go by then they deserve to be disappointed

 

[goerekt]

so, day 3 with AC and i just asked steam support for a refund on obligingness, but they declined. i'm really unhappy with this product. the cars have no soul, one feels equal to the other, ffb doesnt communicate anything to me, physics seems kinda random. i know it is "early access" but it's so far away from what i've expected that i doubt AC will ever satisfy me. my computer can run rf2 better looking than AC so even the graphical benefit is nonexistent.
maybe my expectations were just too high. maybe i expected the same "wow"-effect i had with rf2.
two aspects are significant better than rf2: UI and loading times. and the grass is better looking.
everything else equal or less good.

i would even say pCARS is better. (my opinion)

 

[Niksounds]

"one feels equal to the other"
this statement "undermines" your speech

Really for you is all equal? I can think you have to improve your sensibility! (this is a little bit absolute affermation!)
(and without offence!)

 

[speed1]

The guys lose the more and more sympathy with me. I don't like as the peoples reports on the forum are treated, many acts are with an excessive arrogance and ignorance imho. In my opinion there is no reason. If this is based just because of some steam racer wowed, then i can just use the head shake.

 

[RodBarker]

so, day 3 with AC and i just asked steam support for a refund on obligingness, but they declined. i'm really unhappy with this product. the cars have no soul, one feels equal to the other, ffb doesnt communicate anything to me, physics seems kinda random. i know it is "early access" but it's so far away from what i've expected that i doubt AC will ever satisfy me. my computer can run rf2 better looking than AC so even the graphical benefit is nonexistent.
maybe my expectations were just too high. maybe i expected the same "wow"-effect i had with rf2.
two aspects are significant better than rf2: UI and loading times. and the grass is better looking.
everything else equal or less good.

i would even say pCARS is better. (my opinion)

I dont understand wanting a refund when its early beta what do you expect it to be a perfect finished game , dont you feel they will not improve it over the next year ? I drove it for a few hours and wont drive it again until its next update , I did the same with RF2 and Arma 3 . I buy into early betas to support the Dev teams and because I know I will buy the finished game so why not get a discount and have an early peak at the game .

I think people are too judgemental on betas , its not done until the fat lady sings give the Dev teams a chance to get things right .

 

[williang83]

I dont understand wanting a refund when its early beta what do you expect it to be a perfect finished game , dont you feel they will not improve it over the next year ? I drove it for a few hours and wont drive it again until its next update , I did the same with RF2 and Arma 3 . I buy into early betas to support the Dev teams and because I know I will buy the finished game so why not get a discount and have an early peak at the game .

I think people are too judgemental on betas , its not done until the fat lady sings give the Dev teams a chance to get things right .

No RodBarker, people are not too judgemental.....they are too childish.

 

[Adrianstealth]

It's ok to disagree guys, no one is necessarily wrong just different options etc,

I'm hoping AC turns into a top sim -updates & time will tell one way or the other
if it does I think it will be good for rf2 / Iracing , it will help attract more in to the hobby & like me want to try another sim to have a small collection of sims

I'm actually banned from the AC forum. ( have been polite but I think mild sarcasm can be seen as badly I guess)

Gosh I've never been banned from anything for anything

 

[Tosch]

I'm actually banned from the AC forum. ( have been polite but I think mild sarcasm can be seen as badly I guess)

Gosh I've never been banned from anything for anything

I believe Kunos needs a second Tim Wheatley.
Most computer nerds, aka developers have no idea how to handle different opinions. Sorry guys, nothing personal, but I believe Gjon made a good decision some time ago.

 

[I3bullets]

Hate Budweiser because you dislike the beer -- not because it claims to be the King of Beers.

Indeed, any developer/company will place its product as better/more advanced/tastier/next gen/future/more buttons/elite/etc.

It don't say anything about the product and if advertising is the thing peeps go by then they deserve to be disappointed

I see your reasoning. To stay in the analogy, Budweiser at least IS beer (isn't it? ), just as advertised. AC is claiming to be but is missing all the necessary ingredients except water. I wouldn't mind advertising, even boasting, if the product delivered. In case of AC: Not just another "beta" but the full release they have been anouncing *shrug*

Oh, and just to clarify: I haven't been hyped prior to release.

 

[speed1]

It's ok to disagree guys, no one is necessarily wrong just different options etc,

I'm hoping AC turns into a top sim -updates & time will tell one way or the other
if it does I think it will be good for rf2 / Iracing , it will help attract more in to the hobby & like me want to try another sim to have a small collection of sims

I'm actually banned from the AC forum. ( have been polite but I think mild sarcasm can be seen as badly I guess)

Gosh I've never been banned from anything for anything

I believe Kunos needs a second Tim Wheatley.
Most computer nerds, aka developers have no idea how to handle different opinions. Sorry guys, nothing personal, but I believe Gjon made a good decision some time ago.

Intresting, since yesterday i get issues with my account there. Once i try to log in the drama starts and i can't enter the forum. Sometimes it works but than every action i do on the forum causes a never ending loading time which ends sometimes with an empty side. The browser trys to load the side but nothing happens or just laggy, and there is no way to use the forum as provided. I test it with different browser and cleared the cache of and than the side and forum runs fine but once i have the log in data saved or try to login , no matter if automatically or manually, everything is becoming worse.

And to ensure i'm right with my guess that i'm getting bojcot there, i tryed another account on the same machine and what did you guys think happens ? It works.

That about the behaviour of some.

 

[Adrianstealth]

If your banned

Their forum software takes about 2 minutes to load each page then slowly grinds to a halt

It's their forum I guess & they can ban as many as they want