18 months on your thoughts on rFactor2 ........in 25 WORDS or LESS

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  1. ZeosPantera

    ZeosPantera Registered

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    Slow to develop. REALLY needs the Community to step up because ISI may not give us everything we want. The Ring is Fantastic.
     
  2. Andrew McP

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    In a small, incestuous sim racing market, I fear for rF2's future. But if nothing new was ever added to it, I already have enough satisfying content to make me smile on a regular basis, and provide a valuable distraction from the other sims I enjoy.

    I'd smile a lot more if a decent Nordschleife had made it through to release though*. :)

    Have I used all my 25 words up yet? </innocent_face>


    *I appreciate the version that's out, but I'm spoiled by pCARS and GT5 when it comes to my Ring addiction (ooer Mrs).
     
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    I'll give you $250.00 for you to accidentally lose/give me your project cars account.
     
  4. Murtaya

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    Over-accentuated lift-off oversteer and snap back, poor multiplayer, dodgy collisions, hidden UI for multiscreeners, always battling fps, still the best but frustrating as fanateccing hell!
     
  5. rene-xmg

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    ...started with rf2,
    mostly playing iracing now
    (it shows how good a sim can be)
     
  6. Andrew McP

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    Sorry to clog up the thread, but I think it's important for me to say publicly that my account is not for sale, even if that was allowed. Which it isn't. :)

    While I'm here... Just had an AI Clio race. It reminded me why I'm not walking away from rF2 either. Really great fun!
     
  7. Jän Hahn Liang

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    Majority of the comment is GRAPHIC, GRAPHIC, GRAPHIC...

    Is graphic really that important in sim racing?

    IMHO, those great graphics I see in other games are fantastic but not realistic, when I race karts in real life with looking out with my eyes, I don't shiny reflection effects, I don't see super detailed grass or road texture, I don't see things in HDR effects etc.

    Sorry I didn't know how to count :rolleyes:
     
  8. Domi

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    True. But that doesn't make rF2 graphics better.
     
  9. ZeosPantera

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    Getting Better.. All the time.. http://goo.gl/hQkLoU
     
  10. deathofmarat

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    I think this has a lot to do with how the game runs like molasses and is as attractive as a baboon's sphincter. Atleast if the game were properly pretty, then there would be a better excuse for why it runs terribly on most pc's.
     
  11. Bart S

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    I tell you why it runs bad that your not going to see too much more improvement in terms of execution speed. It is the anticheat system below the hood it all adds up in realtime. But I would rather it still be there than not and on a proper new system its not really bad.
    Sure graphics are all about the shaders right now but its so much harder with the dynamic world that is rfactor2 than any other system. It will be better and look great have faith, maybe not as good as the other sims but you have to put into context the tremendous difference between all the sims and the one with a real dynamic changing world.
     
  12. ZeosPantera

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    25 words.. pfft..

    Lets get down to realistic figures. EVERY 3D world is made up of only a few things. Geometry(and fake geometry "Normals"), Texture Quality (and material reflections) and Lighting(this includes HDR)..

    That is it. The original DOOM had low poly geometry, 32x32 textures and fullbright. So what ISI have to do is upgrade a few of these things. Like higher detail models on all things, crank the textures to 150% and add normals and GET THE LIGHTING RIGHT.. rF2 looks like rF1 in most shots because of the poor lighting AND default HDR..
     
  13. FAlonso

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    The fault is not only dynamic world. For example to turn mirrors consume very many FPS, and do not reflect the reality.
    The graphics engine is great because of the FPS problem.
     
  14. Tuttle

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    Again, can't see the point for your links and videos.

    The video about the HDR is using wrong values, causing clipping and negatives. Really don't know what's the point to randomly mess with parameters in a development tool, to prove something is messed up ingame.

    And about Normals...they're in since day 1, same for higher details models/textures (when and where needed).
     
  15. ZeosPantera

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    Well the video was just my single mid-day HDR mod trying to get the sun to actually look bright as hell like it would be without sunglasses on in June in Georgia. It should absolutely clip in the brightest sun on the white surfaces. I didn't bother with the 24 separate profiles for every hour of the day.. YET!

    And if they are running with normals on since day 1 ISI are doing a poor job showing it on default tracks. Some Tracks ;) do a better job then others showing detail, proper model detail and texture resolution. But even on your baby the grass texture is flat as a board. Would more extreme normals not give that a better look or is 3d grass the ultimate fix-all we are waiting for?
     
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    At first I was excited, then I was disappointed, now I'm indifferent. Got no regrets, and will follow the progress. I'll be over at iRacing.
     
  17. NWDogg

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    Game runs fine for me, and looks good. Best FFB and physics I've experienced. Cheaper than iRacing. Already has enough European content, needs more ovals. :cool:
     
  18. mobanton

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    The only problem I have with rf2 is conflicting mods causing crashes. I find it extremely difficult to ascertain which mods cause rf2 to crash.
     
  19. RGerke

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    Short answer...YES! A realistic Sim must have a realistic Graphics, and not a
    colored toony style, and ugly Textures and Refextions. Look to Assetto and
    You know what we all mean. i have a 1700 Eur Pc, and i want 1700 Eur Graphics with
    DX11!
     
  20. ZeosPantera

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    So you want this?

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