Asus VG278HE 27" http://www.asus.com/Display/LCD_Monitors/VG278HE/ The price is a little high ($AU595) at the moment, but will drop around 10-15% in a cpl months, and continue to drop. It is only 1920X1080, but up to 144hz vertical refresh (realistically, 120hz is what most would use it at). 2ms GTG response time @120hz refresh? Smoooooth. Feel free to ignore the 3D function - I do. Possibly even BETTER is the Yamakasi Catleap Q270 2B. This is an amazing little 27" Korean monitor, with 2560X1440 resolution(1440P!), 120hz refresh (overclocked..), 6ms response and a LG S-IPS panel! All this for around $400 delivered!!! (WTF? Yep.) But beware - there are some issues. It only uses DVI-D Dual Link input (there is a "multi" HDMI version somewhere also apparently), and older graphics cards can not run it. Do your research, and be prepared to buy from ebay (or 120hz.net). However, to equal this monitor (1440P @120hz), in a more widely known brand will set you back over $1000. Yamakasi Catleap buying tips from http://www.overclock.net: "Buying tip: Buy from a top rated seller with a good dead pixel warranty, that includes a power brick that draws less power. Bricks that use too much power won't help anything and gives off way more heat. Also, 'pixel perfect' models I do not recommend. They are checked by software, and backlight bleed/stuck/ nonbright dead pixels are not checked for at all. Extra note: Those that want the multi version with the HDMI/etc need to buy the multi version at a higher price, and get a bit higher input lag. Either way, gaming is fine from reports of other owners. Tempered glass is a cosmetic piece of glass added to the entire front of the monitor. I like the look. SE version of the Catleap has no speakers, which I recommend instead of one with. 2703 version is newer than Q270 series. Only real improvement and difference in the stand is a bit better." What other suggestions do RF2 racers have for the current market?
I've literally just ordered this today, http://www.cclonline.com/product/68191/9H-L7PLB-QBE/Monitors/BenQ-XL2420T-24-LCD-Monitor/MON0593/ I've had a 22" 1680x1050 60Hz monitor for years - I wanted to finally upgrade to 1080p and I've heard a lot about how 120Hz monitors are great for gaming (for smoothness and speed). I know 120Hz is recommended for FPS games, but I think with racing sims the instant response will be just as important, so that's my basis for purchasing the monitor above (after lots of research). The option to try 3D gaming is a bonus, especially as rFactor 2 is listed as an officially supported 3D Vision game (not sure how it has that status already since it's still in beta and is hardly a mainstream game, but nevermind.. it's a good thing). I was tempted by 2560x1440 res monitors but I think you really need an SLI setup to run that resolution at max settings in most modern games. Plus I'm one of those people who likes to edit or mod games (if at all possible) to improve the graphics even further, so that combined with 2560x1440 res would give me framerate problems i'm sure.
I have that monitor for about 2 weeks now and i don´t ignore the 3D function ;-). Actually it was the main reason for this choice. At first i got a kind of motion sickness when using 3D Vision, but it got better every day and now it´s no problem at all for me. Formerly with a normal 2D 60Hz Monitor i had problems using a realistic FoV setting. Like everybody knows, a realistic FoV with one Monitor looks terrible zoomed and seems unusable. But with 3D Vision i get such a dramatic improved perception for depth that i find it very comfortable to drive with a realistic FoV (29° in my case). And this in turn makes ist easier to drive safe and crash free laps without too much practice. Of course this may be different from person to person. 3D and 2D "FPS-Pro-Gaming" is the strong part of this monitor (3D with max. 120Hz and 2D up to 144Hz) But there are weak parts like: -viewing angle ( TN = bad ) -colours are awful by default (but can be adjusted to look acceptable) -backlight bleeding (no problem for racing, but can be disturbing when playing games with dark scenes and so on..........) digi
You are missing out on by far the most important thing when it comes to gaming and even more-so racing sims. Input lag. Most if not all companies dont advertise this, so you have to try to find tests done by well known websites. Even then, different sites can have different results depending on there testing methods, but it gives you a good idea. You should aim for something with under 10ish ms of input lag. My samsung PX2370 is not the best monitor around, but it has one of the lowest input lag monitors of all time (3.3ms) and barley feels different than an old school CRT monitor (0.0s input lag). IPS panels and larger panels and larger resolutions tend to have more input lag. Although hz should have nothing to do with input lag, its kind of weird how most monitors with super low input lag seem to be 60 hz (maybe because they usually make the 120hz monitors technically much better in visual image quality, which tends to drive up the input lag). I would also like to add that the hz wont effect the "instant response" times, as you mentioned above. It will just make things visually appear smoother, thats all, which is a big improvement, dont get me wrong. Plus, as im sure you know it will allow you to use 3D which helps with depth perception and other stuff (although ive read 3d really really hurts frames so make sure you have a powerhouse computer) So ya, basically check the input lag. TFTcentral does input lag tets i believe, but I always hear about the best site being this german sounding one, they are really thorough, but I cannot remember the name, im sure itll come up if you google it, ppl always mention it in forums.
Isn't that monitor expensive to ignore 3D which is primarily what it is made to take advantage of. I would not spend that much on a 27" without Display Port either. This is just as crisp and clear for sims and same build quality. It has DP (Display Port) and Picture in Picture and is 45% cheaper. ASUS VE278Q 27in http://www.pccasegear.com/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=558_1213&products_id=16025 Disturbing for me neither has USB ports, they come in handy.
Nope. Not me. I don't see where I said that? EDIT: Oh - ok. You quoted me, but was referring to ForthRight lol Well, it certainly wasn't supposed to be an instructional post about the more technical aspects of monitors. It is actually asking about make and model suggestions - which you seem to have overloooked! Do you have any? EDIT:I would also mention that I disagree that it is "by far the most important thing when it comes to gaming".
I'm not sure Display Port or USB is such a big deal on a monitor. Not for me anyway - not something I would notice missing. Just like 3D - not interested really. Not a bad choice for a cheaper monitor, but the lack of refresh rate is something I would skip. EDIT: Also, the monitor I mentioned is just released (last cpl days or so?). The price will drop pretty quickly. Looks like the one you mentioned came out at about the same price ($560 is what I could find?).
I was just trying to inform you that response time and the refresh rate has nothing in any way shape or form to do with how instant your actions happen on screen, and that having lag from your steering wheel, pedals and buttons is a pretty big deal in gaming, especially racing simulators. I was just trying to help you with important information because in your first post the only thing you didnt mention was input lag, so it seemed that you maybe were confusing response times with input lag. Just trying to be helpful thats all. And I did mention a monitor for you. Samsung PX2370, one of the lowest input lag monitors of all time. But you seem to be more into visual quality, than latency from your equipment inputs to your screen, so I am not sure which of those sort of monitors to suggest to you. I am sure any IPS panel monitor from any decent company will look gorgeous, but if you have troubles with over correcting cars with snap over-correction oversteer and other sorts of weird handling that you cant explain, well, dont say I didnt warn you about the high visual quality monitors having lots of input lag
USB on monitor is handy if your tower is out of reach, I run my Porsche wheel and CSP from BenQ USB. If your video card has DP why not. ?
Thanks! Once i've got it set up i'll make a quick post about the difference compared to my old one (specifically in rFactor 2). That's assuming there is much of a difference..
First impressions of the BenQ XL2420T were truly awful - I loaded up Skyrim and was greeted with the most washed out and over-bright image i've ever seen. I really can't believe they allow the monitor to ship with such default settings - it made me want to send the thing straight back (it really did look that bad). Anyway, I found some calibration tips online and that improved things a lot, however the 120Hz refresh rate wasn't noticable at all in Skyrim (I was only getting around 60fps though). Then I tried Arma2 - it looked slightly better than on my old monitor but nothing special and again I couldn't tell any difference in smoothness. Finally I tried rFactor 2, and I should mention I get between 110 and 130fps on an empty track in this sim - the 120Hz was instantly noticable. The game feels so much smoother and the cars feel nicer to drive because of it, also unlike Skyrim the colours in rFactor 2 actually look better on the BenQ as it tones them down a bit. So after the intial disappointment I feel a lot happier. I still hope I can improve the colours further, and I haven't tried 3D yet, but simply based on rFactor 2 it's a nice improvement.
I want to do triple screen 24". Any suggestions out there on the cheap? I've been looking at this 24" ASUS
If you want to run eyefinity (ati 3 screen) without adaptors you want the monitor to have "display port"; one of the 3 monitors must be run off a display port socket on the graphics card. Also as far as I'm aware 120hz will only make things smoother if you run with vsync on all the time and have moved from say a 60hz to a 120hz.
You can also use a DisplayPort - DVI adapter to connect one of the monitors. This is usually cheaper than the difference in price between monitors with and without DisplayPort.
As I said if you want to do it without adaptors...... If you were in the market for a new display why would you ignore the new std connector for video cards? When your card is out of date your monitor will still be fine. Future proof yourself as much as you can with any new purchase I would say.
