[REL] WTCR 2018 by Tommy78

Yeah, it's not good at all, let's see what magic can Mark do with that, it's a shame because it's a fantastic track for TCRs.
 
Marks AIW is perfect - please dont change anything. I think its a big problem of the TCR mod
 
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The TCR´s work very well on all other tracks, still some rollovers - but very good.

Did some testings today. The Cupra works excellent, did a race with 15 Cupras. All 15 Ai finished the race within 20 secs. No problems. Same race with 15 VW or 15 Audi - 10 or more cars did not finish. All are driving like mad, crashing every corner. Started in position 12 and was 1st after one lap.

Then i tested some other cars. Some of them, also official S397 cars like the 75 and 66 Brabham, the Spark F3 and some mods like the Mini or the Caterham are also crashing like mad. Noticed that at all "problem cars" the tires are sinking into the asphalt. Did a not so good screenshot in VR but the sinking of the tires could be seen clearly. Will contact the track author. Maybe that is the issue
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Hi guys, I've tested tonight with every front wheel drive car I have including the WTCR 15 cars and I can't get any of them to behave like this with the FASTEST path other than these cars. @Tommy78 are you able to include a simple .rcd file with a DrivingLine=WTCR2018_FAST in it and I will create a separate line for these cars. I think it's a combination of these cars having a very low rear axle weight and this and the Suzuka S being high speed trail brake corners. I noticed at least in the Hyundai the weight dist is 61.9 front, perhaps shifting this to the FIA regulation of 59 front might help with a slight shift in weight?
I'll talk to @Andrea1968 about what @Manfredk2 is seeing as well.
 
@mark Try an old open wheeler like 1966 Brabham. They are jumping over the track and are also crashing and driving like mad. Seems not to be only a problem of fwd cars.
 
guys . . .
from the pics the cars are clearly sinking into the track . . .
now . . . on the track . . .
provided all the object names and materials are set up properly it could be the way the track model is set up . . .
i was asked recently to fix a track with a similar issue . . .
turned out the grass plane extended under the track sections and caused the cars to sink . . .
so in other words if this is the case the removal of any polys under the track will sort it . . .
if i get time will have a look to confirm . . .
 
Cupra which works
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Audi which doesnt work.

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Maybe the cars are loosing connection to the AIW and go wild?
 
senormen said:
guys . . .
from the pics the cars are clearly sinking into the track . . .
now . . . on the track . . .
provided all the object names and materials are set up properly it could be the way the track model is set up . . .
i was asked recently to fix a track with a similar issue . . .
turned out the grass plane extended under the track sections and caused the cars to sink . . .
so in other words if this is the case the removal of any polys under the track will sort it . . .
if i get time will have a look to confirm . . .
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I've sent this onto @Andrea1968 , thanks mate.
 
AlexHeuskat said:
I think there is a BIG issue with the tire heat, no way AI use the same tire heat.
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I feel the same.
But I think there are 2 parts of this issue
1. the default setting just make the front wheel goes hot very quick.
With some simple trick like pressure it to over 200kpa, lower camber and more brake to rear, it's better
But
2. the grip still lose too much with surface temperature over 90C
While in the setting it shows the optimal temp is 85.9C, I think that should be "Core temperautre". I can run with the core temp nicely at 80~90 after 3~4 laps, but when braking and turning, the temp show on HUD aka the surface temp will go up to 110+ and even 140+ if pushing hard, that makes me loss a lot grip. My pace with default setting is like +5sec after 2 lap, and still +3~4sec. with my setting after 3~4 laps.
 
Bought this pack today after much self debating. Its good, very good. The tyre temp issue is a downside BUT the quality of the mod is top notch. My biggest thing with it though is accuracy. The NGTC BTCC Civic that was brought to rFactor 2 behaves exactly how id expect and how touring cars look to behave when watching real footage. But these things feel slightly too planted. Not much you can do to get it wrong in terms of oversteer off throttle into corners during weight transfer which everyone knows fwd touring cars love to try swap ends on you when off throttle turning into a corner.

Other than that its brilliant.
 
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