[REL] WTCR 2018 by Tommy78

McFlex said:

This is how it looks with 100% FFB
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What is your wheel settings in the Windows? (damper, spring) and in-game wheel settings? It looks impossible to me.
It can be a huge difference between wheels? Because for me even with 1.0 ffb and 100% force in Windows do nothing, i feel normal ffb like other cars.
 
Tommy78 said:
What is your wheel settings in the Windows? (damper, spring) and in-game wheel settings? It looks impossible to me.
It can be a huge difference between wheels? Because for me even with 1.0 ffb and 100% force in Windows do nothing, i feel normal ffb like other cars.
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Damper and spring at 0%. Ingame FFB smoothing at 3. Never have issues with this settings with other mods. BTCC FW cars drive normal. Maybe it's because your wheel doesn't have that much torque. When i use 20% FFB this effect isn't noticable at all but than the cornering forces are also nearly zero and i can't feel the car at all.
 
Tommy78 said:
What is your wheel settings in the Windows? (damper, spring) and in-game wheel settings? It looks impossible to me.
It can be a huge difference between wheels? Because for me even with 1.0 ffb and 100% force in Windows do nothing, i feel normal ffb like other cars.
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You have to remember that not all wheel brands use the same FFB techniques and consequently there could be huge differences in how the different wheels behave. May I suggest to collect standardized feedback so that you can investigate? Like defining track, settings (game) and tuning options. So just the wheel remains as variable!? ;)
 
Tommy78 said:
What is your wheel settings in the Windows? (damper, spring) and in-game wheel settings? It looks impossible to me.
It can be a huge difference between wheels? Because for me even with 1.0 ffb and 100% force in Windows do nothing, i feel normal ffb like other cars.
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A Logitech Wheel is to weak. You need simply the whole power for an adequate center torque and can't notice the massive clipping
 
Also if it helps, I just rebuilt my T500RS engine and its strength has surprised me. I didn't remember such a high FFB in years. I guess the wear is also noticeable over time.
 
McFlex said:

This is how it looks with 100% FFB
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It's the same thing that happens to me, I have an OSW Augury
and I use the mmos software and always for rfactor 2 I have the same configuration that for me is impressive and within rfactor 2, I only play according to the mod the amount of force of the ffb. Normally for the original studio 397 cars I take it to 0.70 and with the wtcr 2018 I have to put it at 0.20 and so you can drive but you don't feel anything, totally flat
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and it works perfectly with the official Studio 397 cars, but with its 2018 WTCR mod included the alpha works like Mcflex, come on it's impossible, as I bought it and probe there has remained because I can not run it, I must also say that there are many third-party mods to download that the same thing happens and I still think it is because they are not well done, whether the tire model is not well programmed , simply compare the original civic with this one and you will notice.
Finally we hope you can find the solution and enjoy it.
 
Tommy78 said:
What is your wheel settings in the Windows? (damper, spring) and in-game wheel settings? It looks impossible to me.
It can be a huge difference between wheels? Because for me even with 1.0 ffb and 100% force in Windows do nothing, i feel normal ffb like other cars.
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The FFB on a Fanatec CSW2.5 is also heavy, had to lower the car specific ffb multiplier to 0.40 - 0.45 and my ffb strenght on the wheelbase is 50%
 
Hi guys,

After two weeks testing, checking everything, i found the problem, so now it looks like everything fine. My friend already tested with T300RS, so hopefully will be good for everyone now. I had few moment in the past few days, when i thought that's enough and give up, but finally yesterday night i found the solution. And just for your information, the suspension and tires were all good. ;)
 
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Any "blackfriday sale"? :D
I have Your cars but maybe would be better, more interesting if there would be some "sale".
People always happy to buy cheaper items :D
 
Tommy78 said:
Hi guys,

After two weeks testing, checking everything, i found the problem, so now it looks like everything fine. My friend already tested with T300RS, so hopefully will be good for everyone now. I had few moment in the past few days, when i thought that's enough and give up, but finally yesterday night i found the solution. And just for your information, the suspension and tyres was all good. ;)
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with the ffb problem solved, I can say it's one of best (even the best) of rf2 mod now!
so I'm curious what the problem is...So strange haha. And when will we drive it updated and Peugeot? can't wait for this!
 
I forgot the Peugeot, as we did not have time to working on the physics, it is coming later unfortunately. Hope you understand it.
I wanted to fix all previous issues, and implement the new tires, the new endurance packages first, because some of you can't play with the already released cars.
 
Tommy78 said:
Hi guys,

After two weeks testing, checking everything, i found the problem, so now it looks like everything fine. My friend already tested with T300RS, so hopefully will be good for everyone now. I had few moment in the past few days, when i thought that's enough and give up, but finally yesterday night i found the solution. And just for your information, the suspension and tires were all good. ;)
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So what was the error?
 
McFlex said:
So what was the error?
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It wasn't an error. Just the newer steering wheel working better with higher value nominal steering torque. In the upgrade you can change it from 15-30 now, but we tested, and with T300RS is it good above 32-33. So i modified the upgrade, took off the old style because it doesn't work with newer wheels, and did more settings for the new style, for different wheels. So you will have options to setup properly your wheel from 27.5-40 with 6 settings, each step increase the torque with 2.5Nm.
 
Tommy78 said:
It wasn't an error. Just the newer steering wheel working better with higher value nominal steering torque. In the upgrade you can change it from 15-30 now, but we tested, and with T300RS is it good above 32-33. So i modified the upgrade, took off the old style because it doesn't work with newer wheels, and did more settings for the new style, for different wheels. So you will have options to setup properly your wheel from 27.5-40 with 6 settings, each step increase the torque with 2.5Nm.
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Hmmm. I don‘t think that this will solve the problem. Because what you do with that is just reducing the FFB output. That is what i do with lowering my FFB % output in the software. But than the car has no feel during cornering as meantioned in several posts above
 
McFlex said:
Hmmm. I don‘t think that this will solve the problem. Because what you do with that is just reducing the FFB output. That is what i do with lowering my FFB % output in the software. But than the car has no feel during cornering as meantioned in several posts above
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No, this is not the same, and as i wrote we tested on a T300RS before and after, and many times while i tried to fix this issue.
 
Ok we will see and i will report back. But as far as i know the nominal steering force value is just to scale the ffb strenght up and down
 
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