WTB new monitor 144 hz

hi guys i want to replace my 75 hz refresh rate monitor with a 144 hz
or should i go 240 hz ?
max 350 euros
i will use it for sim racing
i m not gonna buy VR yet i ll wait for the next generation
pc specs
Ryzen 5 1600
xfx 580 4 GB
asus B350 prime plus
DDR4 8GB @ 2666

 

Keep in mind that a 27in 1440p 144hz monitor needs alot of power to drive it. A gtx1070 barely does it. For triples youre better to stick to 1080p you a.

 

90 Hz refresh is plenty for 90% of people and there really aren't any people who get a benefit above 120 Hz, so 144 Hz is fine. Everything higher than 144 Hz is a marketing gimmick. 144 Hz refresh is really all about having the ability to synch the refresh to the game's fps on your computer (down to 38 fps) so you don't have any screen tearing.

 

@Emery i just read that people who play at 144hz dont go back to 60 or 75
BUT
i believe that triple monitor setup is way more fun instead of single 144
is this true?
or 1 single 144 is better for sim racing instead of triple 60hz?

 

@mesfigas I haven't used 144Hz, but I've heard good things about it. When you think about it, you can drag even windows (within windows...) and you can actually see it stepping across at 60Hz. With 144Hz it's like you're not even looking at a screen anymore, it's so smooth it's like you're actually looking at something that's moving, instead of seeing it stepping.

I'm sure that's great in games, when you can push the 144Hz. Now, single vs multiscreen is another argument entirely, I'd say someone who's used to 144Hz is probably better going with as big a 144Hz screen as possible because dropping to lower Hz for more screens will only annoy them. Whereas if you've never used higher than 75 or so, consider sticking with that and go for multiscreens or a very big single screen. But there's not really a better or worse there, it comes down to what each person wants. Personally I've just got myself 3x60Hz screens and am loving it, but I haven't tried higher Hz and I'm going to avoid trying VR until I think I might be ready to upgrade to it - because I know if it's that much better, it will only lessen my enjoyment of my setup. Ignorance is bliss.

 

i dont go VR yet cause of the resolution
thats why i was wondering for triple setup cause i notice that helicorsa apps might be good but tripple is really life safer when racing and someone is near or even looking at the apex and attack corner better

 

Its so funny. I Always told people 60hz/60FPS on flatscreens "lag". The stutter even when running at 60FPS, and people Always came back with "no it doesnt! Not for me! Its ultra smooth!", and i Always explained "no, but dudes, its smooth but there is a tiny tiny microstutter constantly because flatscreens at 60hz are not as smooth as old CRT monitors", but it was futile to explain, lol. Like Lazza says you see the "steps" ("stutter") when moving things in 60FPS on 60hz flatscreen. I was Always aware of it and never liked it. However i never could step up to 144hz because its very few games i could run at 144FPS (it was necessary because i didnt have GSYNC gear - i Think) so i lived with the "micro stutter". Maybe with a GSYNC card now it could be possible with triple 144hz screens? Without GSYNC though 144hz/144FPS to keep it smooth would be out of reach.

 

@Alex72 I'm not sure I could claim to seeing much difference from an old 75Hz CRT, though it's been a while since I had one. Maybe the better way to describe it is that when you drag a window with writing on it - like the server list in the rF2 launcher - the text appears to blur. I believe that doesn't happen, or at least is reduced significantly, on 144Hz. In driving games where you spend a good portion of your time turning (and stuff is moving left to right, or vice versa) that has to look better.

 

I remember clearly how smooth 60FPS was on CRT monitors. It was like moving things in real Life. Ultra smooth. But yes, you are correct, its like a blur, and blur comes from tiny tiny stutters (TINY!).

 

If you buy a high refresh rate monitor, make sure to buy one with the compatible "sync" technology for your graphic card :
- G-Sync for nVidia cards
- Free-Sync for AMD cards
High refresh rate & this tech makes a real difference.

 

I like triples better than single monitor because you can naturally glance out your side window. I've been tempted by a single 4k TV, but the 4k TVs are (generally) limited to 60 Hz and HDMI has limited bandwidth for going beyond 4k @60 Hz (changes coming). Most 60 Hz monitors will also do 75 Hz (because one of the common resolutions is normally 75 Hz), but you have to create a custom setting in Windows to get 1080p @75 Hz. Experimenters can push even higher, but I haven't tried that. GTG response for the 60/75 Hz monitors needs to be 5-6 mS or less to avoid bad blur.

Where 60 Hz most noticeably falls down is when you turn a hairpin corner. Because no games calculate tweening (blur drawn into handmade cartoon animation, same principle as motion blur for games but used in a different way) of the scenery, you get a jumpy impression as the image jumps over many pixels instead of flowing smoothly. 75 Hz alleviates this, but it isn't until you get to 90 Hz refresh that it will go away.

We used to want 120 fps & 120 Hz refresh primarily so we could use 3D monitors (jumping between left/right eye pictures at 60 Hz) back in 2008 when nVidia 3-D Vision appeared, but that never caught on & then we got multisynch monitors and 144 Hz became the standard for multisynch (G-sync, Free-sync). [Ironically the hot thing now is VR and most are struggling to get 90 fps which is 45 Hz refresh per eye and most people prefer it to flat, high refresh, high res monitors]

Blur & stutter are two different things. Blur (ghosting) is the result of the pixels not turning on/off as fast as they should. See https://www.blurbusters.com/motion-tests/tools/

Matching up G-sync with nVidia and Free-sync with AMD, while a good start, is not an automatic guarantee against microstutters. Plenty of stories on the internet about having microstutters. See https://www.racedepartment.com/threads/cannot-stop-stuttering-help.162701/

 

@Emery i was thinking to buy this https://www.amazon.co.uk/Alienware-...ywords=alienware+25+gaming+monitor+-+aw2518hf

to replace this https://www.amazon.co.uk/LG-23MP68VQ-23-Inch-Monitor-1920x1080/dp/B01F1PSHVW

if i go single monitor route

 

Careful, you're going to get me going on my rant about monitors smaller than 27" and realistic FOV! If you're used to IPS color reproduction, I'm not sure you'd like a TN panel. Dang, I see UK Amazon doesn't give you many outstanding options for your budget since the 27" 1440p 144 Hz IPS monitors start at about 400 pounds.

I do see a decently-priced 75 Hz 32" 1440p monitor, but that's my fetish for going big... https://www.amazon.co.uk/ViewSonic-VX3211-2K-mhd-AdobeRGB-2560x1440-DisplayPort/dp/B0746P6L45/ref=sr_1_4?s=computers&ie=UTF8&qid=1545245584&sr=1-4&keywords=32"+ips

Edit: If you're intent on staying with 24" & 144 Hz, I'd probably pick https://www.amazon.co.uk/ViewSonic-XG2402-FreeSync-DisplayPort-Speakers/dp/B075D1B4SV/ref=sr_1_5?s=computers&ie=UTF8&qid=1545246435&sr=1-5&keywords=144hz+gaming+monitor+24"&refinements=p_n_feature_browse-bin:319913031,p_n_feature_ten_browse-bin:12855886031,p_n_condition-type:12319067031

Or https://www.amazon.co.uk/Acer-GF246...in:12855886031,p_n_condition-type:12319067031

 

@Emery so its better to avoid give 350 euros for 24 inches monitor yes ?
the big monitor will give me wider FOV and better apex calculation but 1st time some one suggest me this
thanks Emery

 

@Emery i also just remembered that my RX580 4 giga isnt good for 1440 monitor

 

What about Samsung 49 C49HG90DMU Gaming Curved (49" 3840 x 1080 32:9)? Price is about 900 EUR in Norway.

 

@Ari Antero not for me mate
i can go 350 euros max

 

Dang. Yeah, 4GB isn't quite enough.

 

Over on iracing their dev always stated that curved screens were no good for sim racing, can’t remember the reason behind though

 

I know that. Im still saying that it looks like "blur" but if you pay attention its micro stutter.