why did steam get a new MM with filters and we didn't?

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  1. Kelju_K

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    "best shifted"?

    Take a look at some footcams. majority of drivers still heel/toe on downshifts. Risk of miss shift is just too high on downshifts in general, ESPECIALLY when high on brakes.
    The exeption are rally cars that have short gear ratios, and on gravel you really dont have to.

    Lets take an example. Porsche 997 GT3, which is the car in the flat 6 mod everybody knows, which is a modern race car with a sequential dogbox:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=REcvGkYC1iI

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q3hrpkHoyrM

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aqOv2yteceA

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GLk6C_8JKsY

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=noHq3CYy2Zk

    Now YOU show me a foot cam of the Porche Cup car where the driver doesnt clutch on downshifts?

    Or show yourself driving the porsche mod with proper technique just to show that you are not one of the sim drivers allways making the same claim just because you dont know how to drive with clutch...

    sick and tired of hearing these "best shifted" claims from people who just want to keep it simple for themselves...
     
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  2. Miro

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  3. Kelju_K

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    ^^nice find. 1st one i have seen on the 997 doing it without clutch. but i knew there are few who do it. wonderfull to see it anyways. looks easy but it isn't.
     
  4. WhiteShadow

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    It is 997 with semiautomatic gearbox just like ISI corvette GT2. Porsche 997 GT3 dont have gearbox like that and is not driven like that at all. Fact still reminds there is no drive-train model and game allows to flat shift semiautomatic gearbox or not.
     
  5. stonec

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    Keke Rosberg commented on this in his autobiography. He explained that some drivers would use the clutch all the time, some would only use it for downshifts or when nursing a gearbox, and some wouldn't use it all all.

    It needs to be quite a complicated drivetrain model to take all these different shifting styles into account.

    Anyway, this thread can be closed as ISI just announced that build after 1084 will be last non-Steam build.
     
  6. WhiteShadow

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    Yes to expect drive train modelling to simulate sequential gearshift mechanisms, electronic features as downshift protection. Gears/ gearbox/ clutch leading to failure if consistently misused or abused. Turbo modelling, boost / push-to-pass and energy recovery systems. Realistic TC and AB is bit unrealistic to expect. Perhaps simple drive train update to historic cars is what we get in the future.
     
  7. MystaMagoo

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    WTH??????
    Where they announce this?

    Last non steam build?
    So a refund for my now useless lifetime licence would be in order.
     
  8. Woodee

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    Why? Your rfactor 2 will STILL WORK.
     
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  10. MystaMagoo

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    If I still will get updates,mods,tracks etc then I'm ok but I don't think I'm going to am I?

    I paid for a 'lifetime' but they have just cut that short,I do not want steam.
     
  11. WhiteShadow

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    What you bought is Lifetime access to online services, not lifetime updates to new builds, mods etc.
     
  12. redapg

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    But if only the Steam Version gets updated in Future, all People who don't (want to) use Steam, will be unable to join the Servers that run the Updated Versions, like it is now.
    And with that the Lifetime Licence is almost useless.
     
  13. Christopher Elliott

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    We offer you lifetime on Steam if you want, or you can stay on the last Non-Steam build. You've made your point now in multiple threads, move on.
     
  14. redapg

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    What does "move on" mean in this Case (english is not my native Language)?
     
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  16. Christopher Elliott

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    Ah sorry, let me explain then :)

    You've made your opinion clear now, the choices are there, no need to fill multiple threads saying you will not go on Steam, because doing this will just turn into a rant. And we don't allow ranting on this forum.

    Hope that explains it better.
     
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    OK, sounds a bit strange to me, because in this thread i only answered with an Argument and did not mention that i will not go to steam.
    And i didn't rant somewhere if i remember right.

    But, your Forum--your Rules.
     
  18. MystaMagoo

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    Seems to me your getting a bit heavy handed with the steam censoring.
    Deleting threads posts that are a legitimate question because your labelling them 'divisive'.
    Of course it's going to be divisive,you've just bombed the 'community' by going to steam only after next update.

    Now your stopping us discussing how this is going to affect us.....get over it.....move on....

    Totally disrespectful to your patrons.
     
  19. Woodee

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    He's just moving all discussions to the same place... why people seem butt hurt about something that is not happening immediately and is not as if someone has died, is confusing to me!
     
  20. Christopher Elliott

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    I'm not disrespectful to anyone, and I'm fully willing to help anyone with questions.

    You've mostly just reiterated that you won't be going on Steam, so no idea how to help you really ;)
     

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