I did go online and found a server with the F2 at Mid Ohio last nite and realized how far off the pace I was, guys were doing 1:08's with the chicane and though there was a ton of rubber down I only managed to get down to 1:10's. I did get a setup from one of the other quick guys and though it was a little quicker I had zero FFB feel from it and felt like it was doing nothing and I may as well have turned FFB off. If we drive to our limitations of hardware and skill level and if other wheels give better feedback then this is a pretty tricky thing as what I tried in the other persons setup made the steering feel so bad it no longer felt like driving a real car and took away all feel and immersion from my driving experience. If someone else can use that sort of setup and get good feedback from a different wheel or ffb settings then they could much easier get the most out of it, but its also likely that the fast setups are exploiting physics loopholes and so are not what you would do in a real car which could be a reason for the terrible FFB with it. This makes me think as I was driving to the feel given from my wheel and as all wheels may be setup different, mine is a g25 pretty much stock setup. The FFB has a pretty big impact on how I drive the car and with the setup I was using I got great feedback from the front tyres but after this session I also realized I had way too much push in the setup losing some cornering speed due to this. I was basing my laptimes off the AI times and not the online aliens so I thought even though it was a little pushy if its still faster then the AI and so I was ok with the pace. But still even though some may be quicker then others and setups may stress different parts of the car, as in my last example if you get one driver that runs consistent laps pretty much on their limit tyre wear should have a negative impact in much the same way as a green track vs completely black track. This is evident as everyone's lap times improve as the track rubbers in so then everyone's times should also reduce as the tyres start to go away from you. Its not only the fastest guys that manage to find more time on a good track but they may find some more, the slow guys will also find some time but its all relative some find more others less. Completely shot tyres should have reduced grip in my assumption at least and also in JTBO's brake test it shows to have no effect and this is at the extreme level getting towards 100% worn where even on long life tyres they should lose performance by this time. The FFB differences are another variable but if this is kept the same for fresh and old rubber then the feedback should be relative to what the car is doing if setup and driver is the same as is the track evolution evident by anyone that has ever driven RF2.