Ok, like i said, i could be wrong, and i guess i was about that.
That said, i generally have my wheel setup so that the peak forces of my wheel are near the peak of the forces from the cars when cornering at high speeds with a lot of downforce, which for me is 1.00. So, at low speeds where you would easily be able to experience the understeer, the forces are closer to the middle. So after reading your post, i thought maybe that's why it doesn't feel different, because of my setup and maybe i just never realized from my previous testing.
However, as i remember from previous testing, i tested again literally before writing this, by increasing the FFB multi from 1.0 to 1.44 in the new USF2000, this made mid range forces from the car become the peak for my wheel, and the drop-off did not feel more noticeable, if anything it actually felt less noticeable, i could easily see it dropping away in the pedal overlay, but it wasn't a hugely noticeable change in the actual feel from my wheel. This is after several laps back and forth between settings.
All i'm going on is the driving feel, which is what this discussion has become about now. So what i'm doing is trying to explain the feel, with some semblance of scientific explanation, albeit without any telemetry. The car just feels a certain way, and you can try to explain how the car should feel based on telemetry, but if it doesn't feel the way you're saying it should, then it simply doesn't feel that way. To me it made perfect sense that the reason why there was no difference in feel with different FFB multi values was because i didn't think the linearity changed in the way you're describing, yet after knowing this, i now can't really explain why it doesn't behave the way you're saying it should.
However, this again goes back to what i was already saying, which is that the STS value doesn't change the feel in such a dramatic way in specific ways to make a very subtle change in torque more noticeable, at least not in such a way that is noticed by me, even though i can easily feel the difference in a change of +/-0.001 STS, but that's of course in the overall range of torque.
Like i've explained before, probably many times in other threads: What changes when you lower or increase the STS is the point at which an "event" (for lack of better words) happens in the FFB. For instance, when you lower the STS, this FFB dropoff will actually occur earlier in the behavior of the car, so technically, it will become more apparent, since it'll happen earlier, however, the amount of "dropoff" isn't more noticeable than with a higher STS, it simply changes the point at which it happens, but not so much in the amount that it happens. My only explanation for this is because the FFB is tied to the physics, so the moment when it starts to drop off, it changes the behavior of the car since you would stop steering into the corner at that point, and that then stops the dropoff from occuring further. Now, you wouldn't see such a difference in telemetry, would you? It would just look like anything else, because it would be out of context.
Now, why is it so difficult to try and explain what i'm feeling with telemetry, instead of simply saying i'm wrong and that it definitely feels like something else, when i'm specifically telling you, after hundreds of hours of testing, that it simply doesn't feel that way.
As already pointed out, i didn't start the thread, and clearly you haven't been reading most of my posts in this thread, or have been confusing me with some other people half the time, which explains why your replies to me have been so odd. In fact i was one of the people saying that this dropoff can be felt in rF2, just like it can be felt in my actual car in real life.
No need to take things so personally, especially when you're responding to me with the impression that i'm completely disagreeing with everything you say like i'm specifically attacking you.
I've barely had time to drive the sim since i joined this discussion, let alone get this telemetry plugin and figure it all out.
You can say the telemetry is going to make the wheel feel a certain way, but ultimately you're talking about the feel of the steering, and i'm telling you specifically that it doesn't feel the way you're describing. Maybe my wheel has completely messed up hardware settings since you seem to suggest i know little to nothing about this stuff just because i don't use telemetry, or maybe it doesn't behave the way you're interpreting it from the telemetry, or maybe there are more things going on that complicate this situation so that it's not as simple as reading the telemetry to figure out how it feels.
I'll eventually get some telemetry and try to explain the feel with telemetry, rather than trying to describe the feel with telemetry, since this clearly doesn't seem to work very will in that direction.
My hardware isn't clipping, that's the whole reason why i have the pedals overlay plugin, it's not a simple problem like that.
I'm not sure what you're suggesting with your last sentence, but i clearly said i have no problem with the FFB, how much more clear do you want me to be about that? The FFB behaves exactly in the ways that i've experienced from actual cars, just as long as i have the STS and resistance settings setup a certain way. I've also said in this very thread twice, exactly why i lower the STS; because the self aligning torque is exaggerated if you have it any higher than a certain point.
