OK, I'm not thick and I have tried following the tutorials and walking through the threads on Trees (billboards) and i can't seem to get it to work like I expect it does... So, simple question... can we have a step by step process for creating a quad with the vertexes in the correct places, the alpha vertex values set etc...etc... etc... I am totally confused between "folk lore" and the "proper way" my "tree" is currently laying at about 45deg to horizontal! and doesn't move in the way I think it should... This really should be the section in Track Technology... but I've followed that and also cannot get it to work. HEEELLLLLPPPP Please!