Stock Car Rules List

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  1. 88mphTim

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    **NO OTHER COMMENTS EXCEPT RULES PLEASE**

    Please reply with any rules you can think of related to stock car racing. Please add a short description, and a longer description of exactly how it works.

    Obviously most of them we know about, but reminders and a solid list helps. Thank you!

    For example:

    Leaders pit first
    Under caution, the pit lane opens only for the cars on the lead lap. Cars 1 or more laps down have to wait until the next lap under caution.

    Beneficiary rule (also known as lucky dog)
    During a caution, the first car on track a lap or more down on the leader is given a free pass, allowing them to pass the leader and pace/safety car to join the back of the pack, regaining one lap. Conditions of this rule can be found here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Beneficiary_rule

    Green-White-Chequered
    If a caution comes out before the white (1 lap to go) flag is shown, the race is extended to allow a racing finish, giving two racing laps.
     
  2. sterla

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    Green-White-checkered, caution system
     
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  3. Valter Cardoso

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    YELLOW FLAG:
    Under caution, race classification is frozen, meaning that current order would be the same when race restart happens.

    FLAG:
    Red flag with yellow X means pitlane is closed.

    SAFETY CAR:
    While on caution, if a driver pass the safety car it will have a -1 lap penalty.


    These are the ones i think can be implemented in rf2.
    You can also chech Wikipedia since its an open book.....http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/NASCAR_rules_and_regulations
     
  4. sterla

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    Double file restart
     
  5. goonzo

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    During pacing the distance to the car in front cannot be greater than a specific time. If you fail to keep the distance you get "longest line penalty" and must let all cars pass and position your car at the end of the line. First you get a warning and then you get the penalty.

    When the the green flag is shown you can overtake on the outside but not in the inside before the start/finish line.

    During start the leader must be the lead car until the green flag is shown. When the pace car is in, the leader may start to accelerate whenever it wants - And when it does the start has officially begun (and he cannot stop accelerating).
     
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  6. Chad Dunbar

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    Restarts (going green after a yellow flag period)

    Leader controls the restart

    The race leader is the first car to "go" when resuming green flag conditions. The leader gets to choose his or her position on the track (inside or outside of the front row). 2nd place car takes the other front row position. All other cars fall in line with the normal inside/outside progression (odd numbers low side, even numbers high side).

    The leader can only "go" within a certain restart zone on the track (usually noted by markings on the wall or on the inside of the track).

    Leader must maintain a proper pace speed leading up to the restart - the leader can't "go" early, nor is the leader allowed to slow the field to a crawl in order to get a sudden jump on the start.

    Advancing positions on a restart

    On restarts, you are not allowed to advance positions before the start/finish line UNLESS you move to the outside of the car ahead of you. No position may be advanced by a move to the inside until after you've passed the line.

    Taking the above into consideration, you are not allowed to change lanes before the start/finish line (outside can't dive into the inside lane, inside can't move to the outside lane). A car moving from the bottom to the middle is OK. A car moving from the outside to an even higher position near the wall is OK.

    For an example of this, see the following video - at the very beginning you'll see David Ragan in the #6 move from the high line down to the low line before the start/finish. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6YMhjQIioDw
     
  7. doug484

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    Under caution positions can change during pit stops.

    Drivers may pass the pace car if they are a lap, or more, down or at the end of the lead lap and ahead of the leader. At one to go before green these cars get the wave around. The leader always starts first.

    It would be cool to have some of the restart rules - like the restart box, and no pass to the outside rule - green flag means RACE and not pedaling the car to make sure the leader gets to the line first.
     
  8. DreamLAN Master

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    The above rules are of rules past. Currently you must maintain your position and in formation behind car in front of you. You can not position your car on either the inside or the outside before the start finish line. Once you hit the start/finish line you may pass on either side.

    As for the second... " NASCAR officials outlined new rules in the pre-race driver's meeting at Chicagoland Speedway, clarifying double-file restart procedures before the Chase for the NASCAR Sprint Cup postseason begins and ruling that the second-place can is permitted to beat the first-place, or control, car to the start/finish line."
    Full read here: http://www.nascar.com/en_us/news-me...car-drivers-meeting-restarts-chicagoland.html
     
  9. Hectari

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    Qualifying rules:

    Taken from http://www.jayski.com/news/pages/story/_/page/NASCAR-Sprint-Cup-Series-Qualifying-Rules

    Knockout format with time between sessions to make limited changes and plug in oil heater(automated?):
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    Qualifying rules for both formats:
    " Cars will be lined up on pit road based on the random drawing results.
    " Each car is permitted to enter and exit the race track during qualifying at any time while the green flag is displayed.
    " Cars will be required to enter the track under the same procedures set forth by NASCAR for this Event.
    " Cars must follow the same pit entry, pit exit and pit road speed requirements set forth by NASCAR for this Event.
    " Cars are permitted to complete as many laps as they like during the time allotment as specified above.
    " During any qualifying round, a timed lap cannot begin or end on pit road.
    " Teams will be limited in the adjustments that will be permitted.
    " The permitted adjustments during a qualifying round included rear wedge, track bar, tape and tire pressure.
    " The permitted adjustments between each qualifying round include rear wedge, track bar, tape, tire pressure and plugging in the oil heater.
    " Unless otherwise authorized by the NASCAR Sprint Cup Series Director, only one set of tires are permitted during qualifying.
    " A NASCAR Official must give permission to remove a car from Pit Road, the car will not be permitted to return or compete in that qualifying round or any future qualifying round(s) for this Event and may be subject to penalty.
    " All cars competing in a qualifying round are required to have a Spotter in the spotters stand and a designated person on pit road. ;)
    " In the event of red flag conditions and at the NASCAR Sprint Cup Series Director discretion, the time in each qualifying round will be stopped and will resume once the green flag is displayed.
    " Once the time in each qualifying round has expired, a car is permitted to cross the start/finish line one time.
    " If a car crosses the start/finish line more than once, that lap time will be disallowed and may be subject to penalty.
    " In the event a car advances to the next qualifying round and is not able or decides not to compete, said car will earn the last qualifying position for that particular qualifying round.
    " If two or more cars are not able or decide not to compete in the subsequent qualifying round, the qualifying position will be determined based on the qualifying speed of the previous round for those two or more cars.
     
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    Double file restart
    The race leader can choose on which side restarted (outside / inside).
     
  12. sg333

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    Pit speed limit is plus 5 mph, so a 50mph pit speed means you only get pinged for 55mph or above
     
  13. Fabio Pittol

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    Just to complement the Wave Around rule.

    Here's an excerpt from Wikipedia describing the procedure a little further:

    - After pit stops, once the starter signals one lap before the restart, the pit is closed, and all cars between the safety car and leader will be allowed to advance to the rear of the field. The leader will be the first car on the restart. Cars that were not waved around (such as lead lap cars, but not the beneficiary) will be allowed to pit.
    ---- Such a situation occurs when the leaders pit, but some lapped cars do not pit. This usually occurs when different pit strategies are used between leaders, or when a cycle of pit stops is interrupted by a caution; those cars which have pitted and are lapped will take the wave-around, restarting behind the leaders who pitted, and advancing one lap.



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    I know maybe it's a little "too much" for now, and it's a very specific case.. But would be nice to consider multiple pitlanes and the behaviour during Green and Yellow Flags.

    I already have detailed it here: http://isiforums.net/f/showthread.php/16934-Pace-Car-custom-path-Yellow-Flag-custom-Pit-path
     
  14. Jamie Shorting

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    +1 on the new qualifying rules. I'm sure it's not that easy to code in but would be cool to have.
     
  15. Rob Cobb

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    It may help to know that the last ARCA executable (with Stop/Go penalties disabled) allows admins to correctly apply all of the NASCAR rules. The lucky dog gets selected well by the sim (we just ignore it if the caution-causer gets the lucky dog). Wave-arounds are told by the admin to pass the pace car with one to go and we tell the drivers where to line up (odds on the inside, evens on the outside, leader has choice):

    Restart Order
    1. Lead lap cars
    2. Lap down cars
    3. Lucky dog
    4. Wave-arounds
    5. Penalty cars

    Side-by-side restarts and leader lane selection are no trouble. We do have to ignore warnings like "you are ahead of the car you should be following" (would be great if they were removed). We also review restarts for drivers changing lanes before S/F. IMO, the sim should not try to manage the restart box.

    Wave-arounds are identified as any car that has not pitted under the caution, and, with one to go, is ahead of the leader and behind the pace car.

    It would be nice if there was an option for the number of GWCs other than 1 or unlimited. With the current NASCAR rule of 3, we use the unlimited setting and then just roll around holding our positions if there is a caution on the 3rd GWC.

    So, the only infraction we look for the sim to enforce is speeding on pit lane (EOLL under caution and a pass-through under green). Penalizing lap-down cars for pitting with the leaders would be problematic because the admin often calls for a quickie yellow. There are times a car may need to pass the pace car (wave-around is the obvious one).

    We have been using a plugin that allows for a fixed setup hybrid where everyone starts on the same setup (except for steering lock, brake bias/pressure) and can then make changes permitted on pit road. Adding this to the sim and enforcing tire limits would be gravy.

    We switched to group qualifying this year, but we do not mess with the rounds.
     
  16. Jeremy Enochs

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    I have the official rule book if you need anything clarified.

    Race Start
    • The car awarded the pole position will be given the choice of starting on the pole or taking the outside position in the front row.
    • The car awarded the pole position will be used as the control car for the start of the Race.
    Impound Race
    At events where the cars are impounded after the starting lineup is determined, teams will not be permitted to make any repairs or adjustments before the green flag on the race track.

    Restart Order
    1. Lead lap cars that maintained their respective track position and did not enter pit road.
    2. Lead lap cars that entered pit road only once, on the designated lap during this caution period when pit road was open, as they have returned to the race track.
    3. Lap(s) down cars that maintained their respective track position and did not enter pit road, during this caution period.
    4. Lap(s) down cars that have entered pit road on the designated lap and cars that have entered pit road more than once, as they have returned to the track in their respective track position.
    5. The highest scored non-lead lap car (Free Pass/Lucky Dog) at the time of caution.
    6. The “Wave Around” cars are not permitted to enter pit road at any time during the yellow flag/caution period. “Wave Around” cars must maintain their respective track position and receive the Green Flag on the race track before being permitted to enter pit road without a penalty.
    7. Cars that have been issued a race procedure penalty will be at the “Tail of the Field” in their respective track position.
    8. Cars electing to lay over to the inside column, must allow all cars to pass on the outside, and then double-up at the “Tail of the Field” in their respective track position.
    • All cars must maintain their respective track position for the restart until they cross the start/finish line.
    • The second place car may not be ahead of the leader at the moment of green flag.

    Pit Road
    • During a caution period, drivers must maintain their position and will not be permitted to pass other competitors or the pace car when preparing to enter pit road.
    • A designated line will be used to determine the entrance of pit road. The line must be crossed to enter pit road and once a car has crossed the line, that car must not return to the race track until the exit of pit road.
    • Cars must enter the pit road in a single file line.
    • A car will not be permitted to drive through more than three pit boxes entering or exiting their assigned pit box.
    • It is the responsibility of each driver to position his car within the pit box. Each car must stop within the designated lines of its assigned pit box on pit road to be considered "in the box." A car is considered "outside the box" if any of the following occur:
    • The outside front tire of the car is on or over the outside line of the pit box.
    • If any part of the car is on top of or over the front line of the pit box.
    • The inside rear tire is on or outside the outside line of the pit box.
    • The rear tire(s) is on or rearward of the back line of the pit box.

    Yellow Flag
    • The yellow flag signifies a caution period. The yellow flag will be displayed immediately following any cause for the caution period.
    • ALL CARS MUST REDUCE THEIR SPEED TO A CAUTIOUS PACE, maintain their respective track position independently and form a single line behind the lead car.
    • The track position of each car will be determined when the caution period begins, and NO PASSING WILL BE PERMITTED.
    • Cars must maintain a reasonable speed considering the conditions that exist on the track.
    • Cars may not pass the caution vehicle unless directed to do so by an official. Any cars illegally passing the caution vehicle or race leader will be black-flagged or repositioned at the discretion of the Officials.

    Free Pass
    • After the yellow flag is displayed, the first eligible car, one or more laps down to the leader at the time of a caution period, will be given one lap back.
    • A car is not eligible to receive the “Free Pass” when the car was involved in or is the reason for the caution. Under these circumstances, the “Free Pass” will not be awarded to any car.
    • If a car(s) is under penalty the cars will be deemed ineligible and the “Free Pass” will be awarded to the next eligible car.

    Wave Around
    • All cars between the leader and the pace car at the “one to go” signal are considered “Wave Around” eligible.
    • “Wave Around” cars will not be permitted to enter pit road at any time during the caution period.
    • Any cars under a penalty and the “Free Pass” car will not be eligible to receive a “Wave Around”.
     
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    I've been asked to put forward the knockout qualifying rules, please.
     
  19. DreamLAN Master

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    Exiting of the pits under green flag conditions you are required, at most tracks, to merge onto the track on the back stretch. The car must keep all 4 tires below the line that marks the apron from the racing surface. Some tracks have access roads that are use instead of the apron. NASCAR 2003 was one title that enforced this rule.
    As an admin, this rule is one that you manually have to check all pits stops for, but would be great for the game to manage.

    No Passing under the double yellow line at Daytona or Talladega.
     
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    Speed limits in pit lane has been mentioned, but it is applied differently. Not a speed limit in a true sense. The timing sectors spaced evenly/unevenly and allowed times between each to allow a maximum "average" speed. This would be an awesome addition.
     

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