Silverstone v1.01 Released

Adrianstealth said:
But things are so much better, rf2 I think in some aspects actually over delivers in the graphics department when it's at it best
(certain tracts/certain time of day etc )...
On a last note, I still feel that from a graphical point of view, for rf2 the best is still yet to come, so right now we must be more physics focused
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Yes, rF2 graphics do actually look spectacular at the right place and time, and the physics is best in class. I have been complaining about anti-aliasing lately but overall I am impressed with the graphical quality.

I agree with your point about physics vs graphics. I enjoy the DCS series of flight simulator games, they have incredibly realistic flight physics that include calculation of forces acting on each part of the aircraft. And incredibly detailed simulation of switches, weapon systems and flight control systems. The terrain graphics are a bit outdated and the performance is often terrible with framerates dropping to single digits during intense battles. But it is still the best flight sim experience I've ever had.

On the other hand, ISI probably has different people working on graphics and physics so improvements in one area might not be at the cost of the other.
 
Barf Factor said:
Yes, rF2 graphics do actually look spectacular at the right place and time, and the physics is best in class. I have been complaining about anti-aliasing lately but overall I am impressed with the graphical quality.

I agree with your point about physics vs graphics. I enjoy the DCS series of flight simulator games, they have incredibly realistic flight physics that include calculation of forces acting on each part of the aircraft. And incredibly detailed simulation of switches, weapon systems and flight control systems. The terrain graphics are a bit outdated and the performance is often terrible with framerates dropping to single digits during intense battles. But it is still the best flight sim experience I've ever had.

On the other hand, ISI probably has different people working on graphics and physics so improvements in one area might not be at the cost of the other.
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If you have an Nvidia Card, activate FXAA in the control panel and in the game config. With only Level 2 of AA + FXAA i get less jaggies compared to Level 8 of AA without FXAA
 
DaniloJF said:
If you have an Nvidia Card, activate FXAA in the control panel and in the game config. With only Level 2 of AA + FXAA i get less jaggies compared to Level 8 of AA without FXAA
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Thanks for the tip!
I don't have an nvidia card, but I'll see if there is a way to do something similar on AMD cards. I read somewhere on this forum that FXAA won't work if you have regular antialiasing active, maybe this has changed?
 
I thought I read that too. Now that I am back to driving jaggies are getting to me. Let me know if u find amd tricks and I will research the same.
 
Adrianstealth said:
The main theme of alot of this forum seems to be about graphics, I can understand this as through the years graphics have been a good first impression benchmark of how advanced/current a software title is

To me & no doubt the majority of others physics are the number one thing, but I must admit I spend alot of time tweeking graphical settings to obtain the best quality visual experience possible (as well as spending a small fortune on hardware lol )

So far though I've not found a case in a racing sim where there is cutting edge top notch graphics as well as profesional simulator physics, examples below...
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Simulators that you are talking about are old, it is normal that your graphics are not good.

* Year 2009 = Graphics of 2009
* Year 2013 = Graphics of 2013

During the years has improved the hardware and software so you must demand to any sim that this chord to the years we lived.
 
Barf Factor said:
Thanks for the tip!
I don't have an nvidia card, but I'll see if there is a way to do something similar on AMD cards. I read somewhere on this forum that FXAA won't work if you have regular antialiasing active, maybe this has changed?
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Maybe im exagerating but FXAA really does the job.
 
Barf Factor said:
Thanks for the tip!
I don't have an nvidia card, but I'll see if there is a way to do something similar on AMD cards. I read somewhere on this forum that FXAA won't work if you have regular antialiasing active, maybe this has changed?
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There is an FXAA option in Radeonpro but I haven't tried it with rF2. Also SMAA may be worth looking into.
 
I have tried Radeonpro but it does not seem to be working properly with my card, for some reason the settings are ignored. Maybe CCC is interfering with it. I'll fiddle some more. I'm eager to try SMAA

When using the in-game rFactor 2 settings enabling standard AA turns off the FXAA (you can tell whether FXAA is active by its effects on parts of the hud). From what others report doing it through the nvidia driver works...

Kknorpp001 said:
ILet me know if u find amd tricks and I will research the same.
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If Radeon Pro works on your card then it looks like you can enable FXAA and regular AA at the same time, and it has SMAA

edit: reinstalled radeonpro and it is working now. I can set CCC and radeonpro to "use application settings" for normal AA, and set FXAA on in radeonpro. In rfactor I can vary the level of normal aa, and I have FXAA set to off (but the radeonpro FXAA stays active, you can see it rounding the edges of the track loading screen progress bar)
 
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You can try it and see, just check the box in rf2 and disable the other aa (in rf2 and your graphics card software). It does the job differently and can blur some things it is not supposed to but it has minimal performance impact. Doesn't help the broken white lines unfortunately.
 
Barf Factor said:
You can try it and see, just check the box in rf2 and disable the other aa (in rf2 and your graphics card software). It does the job differently and can blur some things it is not supposed to but it has minimal performance impact. Doesn't help the broken white lines unfortunately.
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I'm at work that's why I asked otherwise I would just try and see :p
 
FYI, I tried FXAA and it seems to be more effective than msaa and also heavier although I understand both of these are against common experience. I haven't done any formal benchmarking either but now I am on a mission against aliasing so next I will try msaa plus FXAA and smaa and report back.
 
SMAA is supposed to be an improvement on FXAA as it doesn't blur text. I'm not quite sure how I go about enabling it through Radeonpro to get it to work in rF2.
 
There is indeed something fishy about Silverstone, besides AA never really getting GOOD (as it does on LRP, Croft and Poznan which runs capped 60 smooth) - I get weird flickering of the left/right cockpit mirrors in the Clio, never happens at the other tracks ? And as everyone else mentions the FPS are seriously low even with track detail set at LOW.

I've been trying to get my 7970 tripple-screen setup to work (again) using Silverstone as the benchmark and kinda got decent FPS (40-60s) - but the graphics are still jagged alot, only on this circuit ? :P
 
Interesting that Silverstone is worse than other tracks. I have only been running Silverstone since being back in the seat after crossfire issue. I will test other tracks also, but first on to Radeonpro and smaa...
 
OK been doing some testing but still just getting started as have many combinations I want to test. One question to begin, though, is the relationship between CCC and Radeonpro can they work together or need to be separate? For example I am currently disabling crossfire via ccc. Haven't tried thru Radeonpro yet so not even sure I can. Anyway, any thoughts regarding whether they step on each other or not, etc. would be appreciated b/c with rf2 settings you have settings being configured in three places, actually four if you count inside rf2 UI and in launcher config. I'm getting a headache :-P

Edit - Also, since Radeonpro is a profile tool, I am assuming you have to re-launch rf2 every time to see changes like you do if using profile in ccc?
 
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Edit - Nevermind I figured it out but now I'm getting cold feet b/c I just got my second BSOD this week and don't feel like rebuilding again. For now I am going to stay with 4xmsaa and let ISI do their job. Too much tweaking......again.
 
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