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I don't think the BOP is wrong. I think the way the cars where being setup before was.

Whilst I'd be happy to revert to the changes you mention (who does not want an easy car to drive?), I know both Duces Motorsport Club and Satellite Racing are embracing the challange and the shaking up of the pack this has caused. Its a level playing field right now.

I hope we see you on track.
 
moriz1 said:
Have you even tried the BMW? Either you haven't or you're disillusioned, or - more likely - trying to influence S397 in your favour.
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I don't think there's any malice in David's actions. He's probably fine with his car being the faster out of the lot and he's not willing to undergo another performance update. I'm sure he just wants to get this event underway already.
 
D Nichols said:
So your findings are entirely subjective then.
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Just out of curiosity did you read Ed's post?


RolandTJ said:
@Marcel Offermans @Domino Duhan @Christopher Elliott
A group of GTE drivers (representing all marques) collectively wrote the attached document regarding the most recent BOP. I believe it covers what the majority of GTE drivers/teams believe going into the race this weekend comprehensively.

The most recurring point is lack of rear stability, which appears to be physics-related. Many people are concerned as to whether they will be able to drive a few laps, let alone a 24 hour race.

There appears to have been some unfortunate back-and-forths on the discord competition channel, which is regrettable. Nothing will come of throwing fire at each other. I feel this document is more in the spirit of civil discourse, and is meant in the best faith.

It is a difficult situation, but I hope this helps to provide a more satisfactory solution for all. In a way, it is a great opportunity for us to all pull together. We all support Studio 397/rFactor 2.

I wish both organisers and participants the very best in the race this weekend, whatever the circumstances.

- Ed Trevelyan-Johnson
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Yes I did Shawn. It does not mention the 911 being two seconds faster.

I agree with Ed's post about the lack of rear end stability which has effected all cars.
 
Launger said:
Unfortunately neither - I am sitting in my chair at home, in front of a 27" screen. From what I see during driving, maybe only 20% is the monitor. Rest of it is my room, my computer, my dishes, my girlfriend, my cat, my steering wheel and my hands on it.
The principle of simulating a realistic field of view would project the view of my monitor indeed on the bonnet of the car, not create a parallel dimension with duplicate field of view, second wheel and so on.
See the picture I made to explain it to you.
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Just move your seat forward and adjust your FOV, jobs done. I struggle to get the sense of that image, the "Realistic FOV and camera on bonnet on signle screen" image is what you acheive by adjusting your seat position in order to get the perfect alignment between your real wheel and the virtual cockpit. Having 3 monitors has nothing to do with this, having 3 monitors is just a plus.
 
Launger said:
Why do you guys enforce cockpit camera? Unless you are sending triplescreens or VR sets to all competitors, then this is a gimmick.
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It's pretty standard in Sim Racing competitions and leagues. iRacing doesn't even offer any other view while driving.

You have options to improve your situational awareness:
  • Use all three virtual mirrors so you can see who's alongside (default key 3)
  • Use the opponent location track bar (default key 4)
  • Use look left and look right view (default keys V and N) to glance to your left and right
  • Use look behind view (default key B) to glance behind
  • Use Crew Chief with Spotter program
I'm sure you won't agree, but it's been an ongoing controversy in Sim racing for 20+ years.

Here's a more recent complaint on Reddit about iRacing: https://old.reddit.com/r/iRacing/comments/7rzpkl/alternative_camera_views/
 
I just want to be clear on where my team stands - we support S397 in doing what they feel is right (including reversing BOP if they see fit). I do not agree with the statement above that implies that we believe it is now a level playing field; clearly it is not. The only aspect that is “level” is that the changes occurred 3 days before the event, however, teams with other makes clearly are having to scramble more than Porsche teams.

We appreciate and enjoy the opportunity to race against the best teams and sim drivers in rFactor2 - that’s the reason we are here. The result is the cherry on top.

Just needed to make that clear...

- Eric Schmieder
Deuces Motorsports Club
 
It's a nightmare to drive the BMW...it's imposible. I know It's fair to make the competition as equal is posible but one thing is to make a car slower and other thing is to make it undriveable. It's so dangerous to drive a single sprint race with it, you don't even imagine a 24 hours race.

And don't say to me... "you didn't test the other cars". I don't need to. I have been training for 3 weeks and the BMW it's so different after the update than our set up doesn't mean nothign at all now.

This car was understeering all the time. Now it's the opposite. With the same setup¡¡¡¡¡
 
Stefan_L_01 said:
The damage level on test server seems to be too high for me. I rolled with some 60kph frontal into tire wall and my engine was gone. RSR has a mid/rear engine! Every minor side touch of a wall results in serious Suspension damage
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Ever driven 60 km/h into a tirewall with a car? i dont think it wont have any issues after that, not saying the engine will die, but 60 km/h is not slow.
100% stays.

Dmitri said:
Didn't find it in the rules. Whats with the starting driver. Is it mandatory to star with the same driver whos qualifying?
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It has to be the same driver yes, as Qualifying is immediately before the race.
Launger said:
Why do you guys enforce cockpit camera? Unless you are sending triplescreens or VR sets to all competitors, then this is a gimmick.
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Because... why any other view, and that was a rhetorical question, cockpit view stays.
 
SRGP said:
Hello,
With the extra setup/practice work induced by the late physics changes to the cars, would it be possible to have answers to these questions today (evening is fine) ? It would help lift some of the work for the drivers.

1. Starting Procedure : Single File Formation Lap
Is it a full lap of Formation Lap or the Green will be called at a fixed point, like for the Qual. Race last Saturday ?

2. Joining for a Driver Swap
How early is the driver taking the car next allowed to join the server ?
2 laps sound reasonnable ?

3. Weather Forecast : Scripted from real forecast
Would it be possible to determine already today at least whether or not there will be a risk of rain ?
The need to rework on the car handling with the latest update is considerably reducing the opportunity to prepare for variable conditions. Being informed early would be appreciated, even though a guaranteed dry race could also be a solution to cover up the practice time lost.

Cheers !
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1. As qual races
2. Read the rules
3. Weather as we see it before the race, this will be applied roughly to what we see fit.
 
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