RF2 cars tyre model LIST heirachy

Thats good example of the case when improving the physics doesn't make for improved handling and causes some criticism, or even straight up negative reactions.

Surface temperatures spiking up for sliding rubber makes great sense, and tire loosing huge amount of grip way above it's operating temperature range is not unbelievable too.
 
Thing is no tyre model is going to be perfect. Rf2 is possibly the best one out there but still has issues.

Having said that what's the consensus on reiza tyres. I'm really not sure what to put in the first post as I have too much contradictory info..
 
For the sake of keeping this thread updated I added the tatuus cars, im suspecting nothing has been added to the tyre model since the gt cars (like say iracing/AC update their TM) but maybe adjustments under the hood probably. Im presuming they are using the new shaders as well?
 
LokiD said:
Hi I want to create something (like RR version available see attached) that has all the cars listed for rf2 and has an easy look up guide for how old the tyre model its running. Some people may see this as pointless but its a good reference to get the most out of rf2 cars and know where the car is at in terms of rf2 tech.

I tried to keep this as consistent and structured as possible, this only include cars found in S397 workshop, if anyone wants to add mods, please feel free. but please be aware its actually quite hard to find this info for the older stuff.

Please any corrections feel free to let me know?

Adjusted = adjusted tyres by s397
---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Tatuus car group = NEW CPM QSA model (+new material system)
GT3 Challengers DLC = NEW CPM QSA model (+new material system)
GT3 DLC = NEW CPM QSA model (+new material system)
Endurance DLC = NEW CPM QSA model (+new material system)
Formula E = NEW CPM QSA model
McLaren MP4/13 = NEW CPM QSA model
McLaren MP4/8 = NEW CPM QSA model
McLaren M23 = NEW CPM QSA model
March 761 = NEW CPM QSA model
Brabham BT44B = NEW CPM QSA model
Radical SR3-RSX = NEW CPM QSA model (maybe slightly older than the rest as still feels light)

Formula2 2012 = OLD CPM (pre october 2017)
Nissan GT500 2013 = OLD CPM (pre october 2017)
USF2000 2016 = OLD CPM (pre october 2017)
Renault Megane Trophy 2013 = OLD CPM (pre october 2017)
DallaraDW12 2014 = OLD CPM (pre october 2017)
KARTCUP = OLD CPM (pre october 2017)
Corvette C6RGT2 2009 = OLD CPM (pre october 2017)
Nissan GT-R GT1 = OLD CPM (pre october 2017)
Chevrolet Camaro GT3 = OLD CPM (pre october 2017)
Renault Clio 197 = OLD CPM (pre october 2017)
FormulaRenault35 2014 = OLD CPM (pre october 2017)

Honda Civic BTCC 2013 = OLD ISI MODEL (Adjusted)
Formula ISI 2012 = OLD ISI MODEL (Adjusted)
Marussia MR01 2012 = OLD ISI MODEL (Adjusted)​
Spark Historics 1968 = OLD ISI MODEL (Adjusted)
EVE Historics 1968 = OLD ISI MODEL (Adjusted)
StockCar 2015 = OLD ISI MODEL (Adjusted)
Brabham BT20 1966 = OLD ISI MODEL (Adjusted)
AC 427SC 1967 = OLD ISI MODEL (Adjusted)
Howston Dissenter 1974 = OLD ISI MODEL (Adjusted)

Nissan 370Z 2012 = OLD ISI MODEL
Panoz AIV Roadster 1999 = OLD ISI MODEL
Howston G6 1968 = OLD ISI MODEL
Howston G4 1968 = OLD ISI MODEL
Nissan 370Z 2012 = OLD ISI MODEL
Click to expand...
Thanks for the list really appreciate it.
do you know what tyre model are used in reiza car packs?
 
Slip_Angel said:
Thanks for the list really appreciate it.
do you know what tyre model are used in reiza car packs?
Click to expand...

Any official content will use the current tech at the time. But I also think it's important not to overstate the changes made to the model over time - rarely do cars feel completely different after an update. The base tyre model and philosophy remains unchanged since rf2 was first released (which is a good thing).
 
Lazza said:
Any official content will use the current tech at the time. But I also think it's important not to overstate the changes made to the model over time - rarely do cars feel completely different after an update. The base tyre model and philosophy remains unchanged since rf2 was first released (which is a good thing).
Click to expand...
So i assume it has latest tyre model as reiza pack was released recently.
 
@LokiD please could you add the official street car Corvettes in rFactor2 to that great list? All released in Nov. 2014

Corvette C6 Coupe = OLD CPM (pre october 2017)
Corvette C6 Grand Sport = OLD CPM (pre october 2017)
Corvette C6 Z06 = OLD CPM (pre october 2017)
Corvette C6 ZR1 = OLD CPM (pre october 2017)

Or maybe only add as one line:

Corvette C6 (Coupe, GS, Z06, ZR1) = OLD CPM (pre october 2017)
 
Last edited:
Ernie said:
What does QSA means? :confused:
Click to expand...

To my knowledge rF2 QSA means "Quasi Static Analysis". There was a problem/enhancement found in rF2 CPM tire model, corrected by CPM QSA model. Basically it was found that the contact patch realistically is bigger, which adds some more grip. Thats the best i can explain, cause i didn't fully understand the problem either. It's of course more complicated.
 
vittorio said:
To my knowledge rF2 QSA means "Quasi Static Analysis". There was a problem/enhancement found in rF2 CPM tire model, corrected by CPM QSA model. Basically it was found that the contact patch realistically is bigger, which adds some more grip. Thats the best i can explain, cause i didn't fully understand the problem either. It's of course more complicated.
Click to expand...
That’s also my understanding , except that the issue was in the previous QSA (QSA is not something new in CPM 2, just improved)
Anyway the issue was ( mostly) occurring at high speeds / high load. There was Michael Borda’s blog post describing it.
 
avenger82 said:
That’s also my understanding , except that the issue was in the previous QSA (QSA is not something new in CPM 2, just improved)
Anyway the issue was ( mostly) occurring at high speeds / high load. There was Michael Borda’s blog post describing it.
Click to expand...
Is this related to high speed oversteery feeling? can you please post the blog link?
 
Slip_Angel said:
Is there any way to upgrade FISI_2012 tyre model? or is it completely upto devs?
Because these old tyres are broken.
Click to expand...
No, and I wouldn't hope it will be updated soon.
But why do you think it's broken? It surely is not ideal as they are CPM v1 I believe, but they feel fine for me.
 
That statement doesn't make any sense. How can a tire tolerate too much slip before it understeers? The moment slippage occurs, the understeer happens
 
Andregee said:
That statement doesn't make any sense. How can a tire tolerate too much slip before it understeers? The moment slippage occurs, the understeer happens
Click to expand...
even if you turn little bit tyres are actually slipping meaning tyres are generally slipping at any corner.
Understeer or oversteer occurs when slip limit of tyre at given speed is exceeded.
So what i meant by my previous statement is that car understeer much later for steering angle or slip angles it is in.
 
You must log in or register to reply here.
Back
Top