Released Released | Tatuus MSV F3-020 2020 (Free Car)

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  1. GertjanD

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    There are honda and clio fwd drive cars availble in RF2 if I am not mistaken. But some newer content would be great indeed!
     
  2. GertjanD

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    Do you realize there are very good mod tracks available for all the tracks you mention?
     
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  3. GertjanD

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    Also suffering from a sim racing injury? I first had problems with my shoulder and now with my knee...very annoying
     
  4. MiguelVallejo

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    Why not classic versions of the official S397 circuits? 80 / 90´ Spa for example ...
    :)
     
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    Would be great indeed (AMS2 is already in that niche). Kalayami would be cool as well.
     
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  6. Filip

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    But these cars are not made by S397
     
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    It is possible that there are no official FWDs because the license for championships in that series is owned by others?
     
  8. MiguelVallejo

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    The only reason I bought Spa and Hockemheim in AMS2 is because of their classic versions. :)
     
  9. GertjanD

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    Ok sorry, but still the original ISI content is quite good as well imho.
     
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    For me it definitely is. But for pilAUTO anything that was before S397 is not good enough.
     
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    The content is not up to date in terms of physics, which is already a good reason to say that it does not correspond to the best of what is being done on rF2.

    And I only want the best (in terms of realism, no graphics or sounds).

    Imagine the fantastic F3 and GP3 mod from SlowMotion Group, but without flex chassis, very recent tire model, without real technical data, support from a racing team and without the support and feedback from real engineers and real drivers .................. Would good that be as well ? Probably 10 times worse in my opinion.

    ISI content is out of date, that's a fact.

    This means that he was excellent for the time, and that there is undoubtedly much more realistic now.

    *But we can still have fun with it if we don't have high demands in terms of realism. But I have no problem with that, everyone does what they want and everyone has their own level of requirements.

    But for me, the content which in terms of realism is not up to the rF2 standards of the last 3 years is of no interest. Everyone does what he wants.
     
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    I don't know if I understand well, because of the language, ... but are you sure? Of the mentioned clues they are mediocre conversions;)
     
  13. GertjanD

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    Well some are conversions indeed, but still quite ok in my view.
     
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    In your opinion yes, ... but in mine no, they are all conversions not a single one is made from scratch, but I prefer Macao a million times than not Portland,loch drummond,Nolan for example,I do not complain about what exists, I only want what does not exist in good quality
     
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    What would you guess ? Do you like it ?

    I don't know, and my guess is that it definitely does. I have had a fantastic session in rF2 today, and I had great start of it with this car. Comparing this to lets say USF2000, at least to how it drove months ago when I drove it last time, this car is on real racing tires, and USF is on some forgiving end street tires. I have been totally impressed by it as I drove faster and faster every lap in Albi race track mod. It has good grip, but not too much of it. Judging by tire wear it is on some durable compound so probably hards ? This goes together with grip sensation. The grip is superb, but once you start pushing truly to the limit, it becomes nervous in very believable to me way, it must be very realistic indeed IMO. I think it is even better than tire on BMW Class 1, or maybe it seems so because that DTM car is just so much more brutal comparing to this. I would be honestly surprised if this is not new tire modeling, but older fashion, not only because how it feels to me, but also because it is newest car in the sim now, it would be just strange if it was rolled back on to previous tire fashion, I don't think they did.

    Seems to me, F3 driver Callan O’Keeffe really meant what he said in the video driving the car. I think it is so realistic how well grips this car, and then it subtly becomes more nervous towards the limits, a lot more active catching of many little slides, very realistic, I did have few large catches and they felt very real, not like the way to drive fast, like it would be with older tires, possible to catch, but not a fast way, just like I expect from real modern race car.

    Personally, I am really a fan of what S397 is producing lately, I am not even that big of a fan of modern race cars, but when they are like that, this realistic IMO, I am excited about them and very much. I hope it will continue on this path, and I hope other people here feel similar to me, because I expect some may be more of a fans of abusing tires, and driving like on some street tires, and doing pace like on slicks like it used to be.
     
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    It is also my impression that this car uses the latest tire model.

    I have the impression that S397 is on the right way in terms of tire model and car production (physics).

    I await the return of the "specialists", who are accustomed to checking that everything seems in conformity with reality by using for example the telemetry.
     
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    I have a-lot of the same perceptions as Manta, the car was very stable and controllable UNTIL I began really pushing. Then the back end would remind me every so often that I have to pay attention to both ends of the car. Very enjoyable.
     
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    Didn't have te to drive it yet, so don't know yet. I might give it a shot tomorrow

    edit: just done a few. Doesn't seem much different to the other tatuus cars (not a bad thing), since you still have to overdrive it like mad to get tyre temps and thus be quick, it is very welcomed to see the tyre temps be much more important than the few % of tyre wear.

    It will be much more interesting to see this tyre model update working on already existing cars like the GT3s, or LMP2s.
     
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    i think the new tire model is on cars without abs and traction control yes ?
    just thinking
     
  20. Remco Majoor

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    No, its only confirmed to be on the M4 Class 1. This was the first car they did this with. After that they didn't say about other content that got released. So others that didnt get updated (which is all of them) don't have the new TM
     
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