Reiza Pack update, where is it?

pilAUTO said:
Do you know if there is any hope that this DLC will finally be updated soon ?

I'm most likely wrong, but I seem to have seen somewhere that one of the people responsible for updating this DLC is someone well known here, the guy who made Zolder, Frederick Alonso.
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Surely it came down to someone being paid or licence issue ?
Best kept secret in sim racing :)

I just thought from the very start it would be a mistake to release a new Imola for rF2 before LMU.
That is all I ever said.
 
All points towards, either due to lack of time for a final fine-tune or just lack of goodwill from Reiza. @RSimioni
Personally, I find it puzzling as there would be some additional sales, guaranteed, as there would also be guaranteed sales if Reiza published new DLC with oddball stuff, like historical versions of some tracks they have in AMS2.
 
mantasisg said:
Everytime something gets released to rF2, there is silence. Maybe that is what has happened with goodwill.
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I don't see it that way.
I see a bright future for rFactor 2 as it continues to be head and shoulders above anything else but LMU (which is a focused title).
But, that also requires people doing more cooperative stuff, more 'assembly-line-modding'.
 
I just wish for 2010s to come back, when people were clearly real persons, and were doing and saying real genuine persons things such as simply driving cars at tracks in simulations and noticing things.

Without that no assembly-lines will happen. Whats the point ?

Reiza pack to be released needs to bring benefit to Reiza. Thirty more sales and total silence without any impressions from people, where is the benefit ? 30 sales ? If it were couple hundred sales then I guess it would be minimum, and who cares then that people doesn't even understand what they get, is it masterpiece or is it crap, they see it identically. This is very demotivating and harmful for community, and it is self inflicted. Nothing new though.
 
mantasisg said:
I just wish for 2010s to come back, when people were clearly real persons, and were doing and saying real genuine persons things such as simply driving cars at tracks in simulations and noticing things.

Without that no assembly-lines will happen. Whats the point ?

Reiza pack to be released needs to bring benefit to Reiza. Thirty more sales and total silence without any impressions from people, where is the benefit ? 30 sales ? If it were couple hundred sales then I guess it would be minimum, and who cares then that people doesn't even understand what they get, is it masterpiece or is it crap, they see it identically. This is very demotivating and harmful for community, and it is self inflicted. Nothing new though.
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Reiza Pack is ready, it's just petty by Reiza 99.9%.
 
Lazza said:
???

What, like Zolder?
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I did not say anything about Zolder. But I do think that it was instant underdog. Great track, wasn't appreciated nearly enough yet. And this is what I meant, community needs to be buzzing with life, and I wish for that to happen.

For Reiza I think the pack wouldn't generate significant amount of new sales, just my speculation. Another speculation is that from now on its purpose is to bring good light for Reiza, simply that. And light is generated by THE GOODWILL OF PEOPLE who knows how to enjoy it, and help others know it.
 
mantasisg said:
I did not say anything about Zolder. But I do think that it was instant underdog. Great track, wasn't appreciated nearly enough yet. And this is what I meant, community needs to be buzzing with life, and I wish for that to happen.

For Reiza I think the pack wouldn't generate significant amount of new sales, just my speculation. Another speculation is that from now on its purpose is to bring good light for Reiza, simply that. And light is generated by THE GOODWILL OF PEOPLE who knows how to enjoy it, and help others know it.
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Like all things 'rFactor 2', the release of Zolder was botched, having succumbed to 'the rF2 curse': with the wrong files being uploaded into the servers, we lost the Zolder 24h momentum...

And about Zolder and in the rFactor 2 golden content:

I believe I mentioned this elsewhere but, I tested both Zolder and the visual upgrades made to the C6R GT2 - still one of my favourite cars and visually upgraded, even more so - at the same time with a heavy rubber I created with myself and AI on a 10x track evolution time scale -- it's just beautifully smeared and feeling raced upon -- I set up a long 90 min practice session with overcast to heavy rain, to partially cloudy weather progression and... I am not sure if its due to the absurdly detailed track mesh if due to C6R still being absolute 'Prime Beef' or a combination of both, but the wet track physics felt great and very believable, with the exception of not having puddles/standing water.

As the track became wet, slicks remained very much grippy whilst they retained temperature and still connected to the existing rubber. A complaint here would be that the tyres were holding temperature a bit too much, but eventually they started to give in and the wet line became a surface smeared with soap, not impossible to drive, but almost, whilst the wet line had significantly more grip and allowed more throttle application, but wet tyres were needed and there, the wet line being grippier than the rubbered line was even more marked.

Perhaps VR provides such a immersion that it generates a placebo effect on physics, but, I don't think so:

I use 100% head-physics in VR because, whoever parameterised the head-physics in rF2 should get a Nobel as it adds the perfect level of G-force illusion by being -- unlike any other game I tried* -- so brilliantly in sync with the FFB that you forget that you are in-game and due to that, the perception of loss of front grip or loss of traction is greatly enhanced... so I stand by perception that Zolder and the C6R gave a pretty solid wet weather driving feel.

PS: As the sun came out and the dry line began to form, it was really nice seeing the evolution, the wet tyres becoming hot... at which point I crashed and my session ended :-D
PPS: Also nice, AI Autocalibration in "2" - they really learn the track/car combo over a session and become extremely well behaved in Quali and in Race, however, you can only start a race once as if you re-start, it will make them forget everything (here, I am not sure if there is anything relating to, perhaps reverting to a random grid?)
 
I find the frustrating thing about this pack is that ultimately we don't know if it will be updated, or when it will be updated if it is.

Basically, it's not the biggest drama on earth if it doesn't get updated, but not knowing if it ever will be updated or when, is the annoying part of this whole thing.

I'm still very keen to get VIR as well as Ibarra updated.
Both of these tracks have very interesting aspects.
 
pilAUTO said:
I find the frustrating thing about this pack is that ultimately we don't know if it will be updated, or when it will be updated if it is.

Basically, it's not the biggest drama on earth if it doesn't get updated, but not knowing if it ever will be updated or when, is the annoying part of this whole thing.

I'm still very keen to get VIR as well as Ibarra updated.
Both of these tracks have very interesting aspects.
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No, what is frustrating is that the work is... as good as DONE and ready to go. The effort required to update the contents has been invested already. It's dead money and makes no sense from a business perspective.

I stopped buying AMS2 DLC because of this @RSimioni and I had been doing it strictly to fund a project that I don't like, but... is valuable for the community.

Particularly, I see that as being valid for the VR community, given its extremely kind gfx engine, making getting yourself in a VR race, a breeze, even in lesser systems.
And, apparently, its multiplayer is now substantially improved: setting up servers for a good laugh with friends is easy and stable.
But, I will not continue to fund it until the updated Reiza Packs are released.
 
vava74 said:
No, what is frustrating is that the work is... as good as DONE and ready to go. The effort required to update the contents has been invested already. It's dead money and makes no sense from a business perspective.

I stopped buying AMS2 DLC because of this @RSimioni and I had been doing it strictly to fund a project that I don't like, but... is valuable for the community.

Particularly, I see that as being valid for the VR community, given its extremely kind gfx engine, making getting yourself in a VR race, a breeze, even in lesser systems.
And, apparently, its multiplayer is now substantially improved: setting up servers for a good laugh with friends is easy and stable.
But, I will not continue to fund it until the updated Reiza Packs are released.
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Many others should do this too. I feel disrespected as a consumer, since both parties promised that the content would be updated. It's simply a matter of goodwill.
 
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