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Personally speaking "100% Wet" just means the track is fully wet, doesn't necessarily mean Red Flag to me, if that's what it's supposed to mean then yeah the wording could do with being adjusted perhaps.
 
But let's say it IS a red flag situation, the game should then prevent you from starting to drive until the conditions dried up at least a few percentage pts.
 
DiggerHawk said:
I have been testing the StockCar 2018 Cup version at Brands Hatch after having slow Ai with the 2018X version. The Cup Ai pace is great, I'm getting really competitive opposition at 97% compared to easily beatable opposition at 120% in the 2018X. Weirdly I am slightly faster in the 2018X compared to the Cup, maybe its just easier to drive.
Something else I noticed was that you can not set how much fuel to use from the setup screen, it is greyed out. The problem is the Ai can adjust their fuel to suit the race length or qualifying stint. This means you are disadvantaged in qualifying for being too heavy and also in the race, depending on its length.

I managed to fix it myself by adding the lines below to the upgrades file under the road coarse section.

HDV=FuelRange=(5, 1, 64)
HDV=FuelSetting=29

Is their a reason they are not already included in the HDV file?
Another minor issue I spotted was that the wiper blades don't look to rotate correctly as if their axis is slightly in the wrong place. I presume this affects both version but I have mostly been using the Cup version.
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Well, you are supposed to qualify with a full tank of fuel. It is a rule and why it is like that. AI fuel management needs fixed for Stock Cars. they need to always start with a full tank of fuel.
 
MarcG said:
Indeed, something like 120% like what the AI strength goes upto!
Either way I don't recall any official documentation stating 100% = Red Flag but I may be wrong.
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The wet levels were changed a while ago, I think this was mentioned but it's obviously not indicated in the game.
 
Alex Sawczuk said:
What did you expect 100% wet to mean? I'd argue its fairly obvious that 100% should mean pretty much undriveable.. Maybe the set percentage should be replaced by a descriptive word though
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The problem is it's not obvious at all. Why have a wet option that should result in a red flag? Even with full flag rules, there isn't a FCY at the start of any session nor does the player receive a warning the track is too wet to drive on from the spotter or in-game messaging system. Compounding the issue is many of the AI cars drive on a 100% wet track without issue, including driving through large puddles.

It's a solvable issue, I am simply highlighting what a new player or someone unfamiliar to rain in rF2 would experience.
 
It would be good if the driver is aware via the UI of :

1) The % of wet road where the different types of tires should be used (slicks, intermediate, wet);

2) According to the rubber and the % of wet road what the driver should expect on the dry driving line.

[Moreover, it is now time IMO to integrate aquaplaning into the physics engine (especially not fake, but why not a little simplified if PCs would have trouble managing it).]
 
Let's say 100% is borderline red flag. It would be practically the same but no red flag. If there's a real meaning to the percentage, maybe it would help to show it, like water per square.

I don't think it's bad like it is. I would try a wet level, see what happens and change it if it's too much or too low. No need for worded levels like "too low", "good enough", "too much".
 
Travis said:
The problem is it's not obvious at all. Why have a wet option that should result in a red flag? Even with full flag rules, there isn't a FCY at the start of any session nor does the player receive a warning the track is too wet to drive on from the spotter or in-game messaging system. Compounding the issue is many of the AI cars drive on a 100% wet track without issue, including driving through large puddles.

It's a solvable issue, I am simply highlighting what a new player or someone unfamiliar to rain in rF2 would experience.
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What's the issue? This is the 2023 Q1 thread.
 
Travis said:
The problem is it's not obvious at all. Why have a wet option that should result in a red flag? Even with full flag rules, there isn't a FCY at the start of any session nor does the player receive a warning the track is too wet to drive on from the spotter or in-game messaging system. Compounding the issue is many of the AI cars drive on a 100% wet track without issue, including driving through large puddles.

It's a solvable issue, I am simply highlighting what a new player or someone unfamiliar to rain in rF2 would experience.
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Also of note: those large puddles are just graphical. Another thing not obvious to the newcomer.

@pilAUTO telling the user what conditions require which tyres is overly prescriptive, potentially misleading, and probably quite difficult to be confident about - as the effect on different tyres is defined within the tyres (for each car) and may not be easily analysed as regards overall performance. But yes, aquaplaning would be good to go with the puddles, as another of those features people would love to have and then 90% will wish never to encounter.
 
mschreiner said:
Well, you are supposed to qualify with a full tank of fuel. It is a rule and why it is like that. AI fuel management needs fixed for Stock Cars. they need to always start with a full tank of fuel.
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Ok thanks for clearing that up for me. I thought it may be deliberate. Its just a pity the Ai don't adhere to the same rule at the moment.
 
There's one way that I think makes more sense than the rest. Take 0% as dry and 100% as so wet that we don't care that it gets even more wet. I guess that's the logical way most of us think intuitively.
 
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Bernat said:
There's one way that I think makes more sense than the rest. Take 0% as dry and 100% as so wet that we don't care that it gets even more wet. I guess that's the logical way most of use think intuitively.
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In a game with moddable cars even that still fairly vague definition starts to lose meaning.
 
Thanks, John. Guess you are the new "Community Communicator". Good luck with your new responsibilities(whatever they might be) and may I suggest you identify your posts with a bold icon or bold print to differentiate "Official" posts from our everyday ones. Merci.
 
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