Push 2 Pass

Lazza said:
I'm not sure, and I've hardly raced against AI. I thought they only had it in zones, in tracks with zones defined (In other tracks they'll use it everywhere, but so can the player).
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That was always a discussion we had. Some wanted unfettered DRS use, others only at the relatively few tracks like the F1 circuits that had established DRS zones. Since I favored the 67 Endurance mod with it's Chaparral imitation, I wanted DRS use everywhere, anytime. But I thought it should be a menu item to turn on or off DRS use for each track. Just another item that never got properly sorted for everybody....
 
Yes, I think so. I tested it a few times, but I saw no noticeable difference in performance between AI cars that had it, and cars that didn't.
Lazza said:
I'm not sure, and I've hardly raced against AI. I thought they only had it in zones, in tracks with zones defined (In other tracks they'll use it everywhere, but so can the player).
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They only have it in zones, and on tracks that have DRS enabled.
 
When i remember it right, some Months ago, the Games Code was changed in that Way, that only on the Tracks, that have DRS Zones defined, the AI can and will use it, in that Way, like the Settings in the Tracks gdb File allow it.
Before, they did use it on every Track, so that i e.g. had to create Update rfcmp with DRS disabled, to avoid the AI to use it.
 
Hey all im trying to limit the P2P on the btcc bmw but i just cant get it to work i can do it with all fwd cars IE astra ford honda etc but bmw dont want to play ball

this is what i have for bmw
in the upgrade.ini bmw
DisplayClassOverride="BTCC"

UpgradeType="Tyre Selection"
{
UpgradeLevel="Unrestricted"
{
Description="Availability of all tyres without restriction (Soft, Medium, Hard and Wet compounds)."
CPIT=GraphicalTireCompounds=4
CPIT=TireCompoundMap=(2,1,0,3)
CPIT=SpinnerCompound=1

HDV=[GENERAL]
HDV=TireBrand="BMW_330e_BTCC.tbc"
HDV=FrontTireCompoundSetting=1
HDV=RearTireCompoundSetting=1
HDV=

}
UpgradeLevel="Standard"
{
Description="Standard availability, consisting of Soft, Medium and Wet compounds."
CPIT=TireCompoundMap=(2,1,3)
CPIT=SpinnerCompound=1

HDV=[GENERAL]
HDV=TireBrand="BMW_330e_BTCC_smw.tbc"
HDV=FrontTireCompoundSetting=1
HDV=RearTireCompoundSetting=1
HDV=
}

UpgradeLevel="Medium and wet only"
{
Description="Availability of tyres restricted to Medium and Wet compounds."
CPIT=TireCompoundMap=(1,3)
CPIT=SpinnerCompound=1

HDV=[GENERAL]
HDV=TireBrand="BMW_330e_BTCC_mw.tbc"
HDV=FrontTireCompoundSetting=0
HDV=RearTireCompoundSetting=0
HDV=
}

UpgradeLevel="Hard and wet only"
{
Description="Availability of tyres restricted to Hard and Wet compounds."
CPIT=TireCompoundMap=(0,3)
CPIT=SpinnerCompound=0

HDV=[GENERAL]
HDV=TireBrand="BMW_330e_BTCC_hw.tbc"
HDV=FrontTireCompoundSetting=0
HDV=RearTireCompoundSetting=0
HDV=
}
}
UpgradeType="BVTCC 2024 Physics Alignment and BoP"
{
UpgradeLevel="On"
{
HDV=[PUSH2PASS]
HDV=Push2PassTimeBetweenActivations=5
HDV=Push2PassMaxUses=60
HDV=Push2PassActivationsPerLap=4
HDV=
HDV=[GENERAL]
HDV=Mass=8000
HDV=CGRearRange=(-1.600, 3.350, 10)
HDV=CGRearSetting=0
HDV=

}
}

//UpgradeType="Visor Mod"
//{
// Instance="VISOR"
// UpgradeLevel="NO VISOR"
// {
// Description="Clear Helmet View"
// GEN=<VISORMOD>=no_visor.gmt
// }
//
// UpgradeLevel="VISOR MOD"
// {
// Description="Helmet View Through Visor"
// GEN=<VISORMOD>=visor_cam_TT.gmt
// }
//}
and the fwd has virtualy the same minus the mass hdv (yes iv tried taking the mass hdv out..

this is fwd ini
DisplayClassOverride="BTCC"

UpgradeType="Tyre Selection"
{
UpgradeLevel="Unrestricted"
{
Description="Availability of all tyres without restriction (Soft, Medium, Hard and Wet compounds)."
CPIT=GraphicalTireCompounds=4
CPIT=TireCompoundMap=(2,1,0,3)
CPIT=SpinnerCompound=1

HDV=[GENERAL]
HDV=TireBrand="Ford_Focus_BTCC.tbc"
HDV=FrontTireCompoundSetting=1
HDV=RearTireCompoundSetting=1
HDV=

}
UpgradeLevel="Standard"
{
Description="Standard availability, consisting of Soft, Medium and Wet compounds."
CPIT=TireCompoundMap=(2,1,3)
CPIT=SpinnerCompound=1

HDV=[GENERAL]
HDV=TireBrand="Ford_Focus_BTCC_smw.tbc"
HDV=FrontTireCompoundSetting=1
HDV=RearTireCompoundSetting=1
HDV=
}

UpgradeLevel="Medium and wet only"
{
Description="Availability of tyres restricted to Medium and Wet compounds."
CPIT=TireCompoundMap=(1,3)
CPIT=SpinnerCompound=1

HDV=[GENERAL]
HDV=TireBrand="Ford_Focus_BTCC_mw.tbc"
HDV=FrontTireCompoundSetting=0
HDV=RearTireCompoundSetting=0
HDV=
}

UpgradeLevel="Hard and wet only"
{
Description="Availability of tyres restricted to Hard and Wet compounds."
CPIT=TireCompoundMap=(0,3)
CPIT=SpinnerCompound=0

HDV=[GENERAL]
HDV=TireBrand="Ford_Focus_BTCC_hw.tbc"
HDV=FrontTireCompoundSetting=0
HDV=RearTireCompoundSetting=0
HDV=
}
}

UpgradeType="BVTCC 2024 Physics Alignment and BoP"
{
UpgradeLevel="On"
{
HDV=[PUSH2PASS]
HDV=Push2PassTimeBetweenActivations=5
HDV=Push2PassMaxUses=60
HDV=Push2PassActivationsPerLap=4
HDV=
}
}


//UpgradeType="Visor Mod"
//{
// Instance="VISOR"
// UpgradeLevel="NO VISOR"
// {
// Description="Clear Helmet View"
// GEN=<VISORMOD>=no_visor.gmt
// }
//
// UpgradeLevel="VISOR MOD"
// {
// Description="Helmet View Through Visor"
// GEN=<VISORMOD>=visor_cam_TT.gmt
// }
//}
any help would be great full or another way to reduce it
 
@jonno It's just a Suspicion, but maybe it's caused by the completely Insane Values for
HDV=Mass=8000
HDV=CGRearRange=(-1.600, 3.350, 10)
HDV=CGRearSetting=0
that are in the same Upgrade Option.

Mass=8000? Really?

And the CGRearRange must be in the Range of 0 -1.0.
-1.600 and 3.350 are invalid Values.
Maybe that the whole Upgrade Option gets ignored, because of these invalid Values.
Try it out without the Entries for the [GENERAL] Section.
 
We were messing about with the weight of it and it didn't seem to affect it adding little amounts so we went extreme. However I have removed the mass values and it still don't want to work.. I'm not 100% sure what the cg rear range is tbh. But as mentioned I tried it with just the P2P HDV and it didn't work for me
 
jonno said:
We were messing about with the weight of it and it didn't seem to affect it adding little amounts so we went extreme. However I have removed the mass values and it still don't want to work.. I'm not 100% sure what the cg rear range is tbh. But as mentioned I tried it with just the P2P HDV and it didn't work for me
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The CGRearRange is the Range in that you can move the Weight more to the front or to the Rear.
And it's Percentage, where 1 is 100 %.
That is the Reason, why i've said that your Values are invalid.

If i understood you right, the same P2P Entries that you use for the BMW Upgrades.ini, are working properly for all other BTCC Cars.
Is that correct?

Would you mind to upload your BMW Update rfcmp and send me the Link?
 
Yeah that's right all other cars works ok I didn't put any weight on the fwd cars. I'll upload the rfcmp file when I get home in the next hour
 
iv just had a thought i created multiple versions of the ini file and made 4 diffrent mas files for each change i made could having 4 varients of the same ini file have something to do with it.. so when i packed the rfcmp file it had four diffrent bmw mas files in there. could that be the issue
 
oohhhh fml i think i know why its not working lol the upgrade ini is not just called the btcc ini
 
jonno said:
oohhhh fml i think i know why its not working lol the upgrade ini is not just called the btcc ini
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That is of course a very probable Reason. :)
And never pack Files with the same Name and different Content into the same rfcmp, also not, if they are in different mas Files.
That always will cause Conflicts.
 
i feel like such an idiot now lol it was literally cus the upgrade ini was spelt slightly different not enough for my dyslexic brain to notice lol thanks all i wouldn't of spotted it if i wasn't questioned on it
 
GUYS when imputing the Parameters do they need to be in some sort of order.??? i added Push2PassTimePerPush=10 to the hdv list and its still using the normal 15 seconds..?? or is this only effected during race in practice i get full 15
 
jonno said:
GUYS when imputing the Parameters do they need to be in some sort of order.??? i added Push2PassTimePerPush=10 to the hdv list and its still using the normal 15 seconds..?? or is this only effected during race in practice i get full 15
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As said in the private Conversation: you can not use 2, 3, 4... Upgrade.ini Files, that have the same File Name, but different Content, in the same Component.
That only causes Conflicts.
 
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