Push 2 Pass

Not really. Due to the way rF1 and rF2 had faked their P2P, the P2P setting is a selectable Turbo setting 2. So essentially, you could run that setting the whole time. Being able to have that setting as only workable with the button would help immensely.
 
Chris Lesperance said:
Not really. Due to the way rF1 and rF2 had faked their P2P, the P2P setting is a selectable Turbo setting 2. So essentially, you could run that setting the whole time. Being able to have that setting as only workable with the button would help immensely.
Click to expand...

Ok, so you can't achieve that using the above?
 
Lazza said:
Ok, so you can't achieve that using the above?
Click to expand...
I was going to say - I think this new P2P functionality does that, you'd have to have the engine file only allow 1 selectable option but use the next one up, while unselectable, as the 2nd boost option. So something like this in the engine.ini:
Code: 
EngineBoostRange=(0, 1, 1)
EngineBoostSetting=0

BoostTurboPressure=(186325,20000)
would give you a "base" boost of 1.86 bar, with .2 extra available as push to pass, with [PUSH2PASS] HDV entries Push2PassBoostMap=1 and Push2PassType=1.
 
Chris Lesperance said:
It sounded like you guys were still having issues. I'm away on a work trip, so I won't be able to look at it until I get back. But it would just be nice to have official documentation.
Click to expand...

Yeah, only issue is getting the hold to work. Everything else is fine. Note the max total time and per lap can be 0 to allow unlimited uses (either or both).
 
Cosmo said:
I was going to say - I think this new P2P functionality does that, you'd have to have the engine file only allow 1 selectable option but use the next one up, while unselectable, as the 2nd boost option. So something like this in the engine.ini:
Code: 
EngineBoostRange=(0, 1, 1)
EngineBoostSetting=0

BoostTurboPressure=(186325,20000)
would give you a "base" boost of 1.86 bar, with .2 extra available as push to pass, with [PUSH2PASS] HDV entries Push2PassBoostMap=1 and Push2PassType=1.
Click to expand...

Yep - that's how it seems.
You can do P2P with NA engines in the same way - I've got one on the go with:

Code: 
EngineMixtureRange=(0.7,0.3,1)
EngineMixtureSetting=0

and...
Code: 
[PUSH2PASS] //Added for SR4L LE
Push2PassType=0 // Whether the push to pass alters the engine (0) or turbo (1) map.
Push2PassEngineMap=1 // Which engine mixture map to use if PushToPassType=0.

Originally, the Mixture without P2P was:

Code: 
EngineMixtureRange=(1,0,1)
EngineMixtureSetting=0

So what I've done is use Dev mode to get the engine power/torque with mixture values of 0.7 and the default (1) and work out a GeneraltPowerMult/GeneralTorqueMult figure so that the engine is back to its original performance with mixture = 0.7

...then, when the P2P enriches the mixture back to 1, you get a hefty (probably too much - but this was just a test really) punch.
 
Anybody else having problems with their P2P in RC1128? The method I used above appears broken - the p2p time left button correctly reports that it is available, but it refuses to activate in RC.
 
MileSeven said:
Anybody else having problems with their P2P in RC1128? The method I used above appears broken - the p2p time left button correctly reports that it is available, but it refuses to activate in RC.
Click to expand...
It works for the IR18, but not the rFPro. I 'think' it should not even be included with the Pro, but who knows for certain.
 
davehenrie said:
It works for the IR18, but not the rFPro. I 'think' it should not even be included with the Pro, but who knows for certain.
Click to expand...

He's talking about implementing the system on his own car(s), not either of the DLC. Note the thread we're in.

@MileSeven I can't rule out stuffing something up somewhere with a quick test, but I think I'm doing the same thing I did originally and getting the same results as you - the status works but the activation isn't.
 
Last edited:
Lazza said:
He's talking about implementing the system on his own car(s), not either of the DLC. Note the thread we're in.

@MileSeven I can't rule out stuffing something up somewhere with a quick test, but I think I'm doing the same thing I did originally and getting the same results as you - the status works but the activation isn't.
Click to expand...
Thanks Lazza. I’ve yet to try it in the dev mode but suspect it’ll be the same but it might give more clues.
 
Lazza said:
He's talking about implementing the system on his own car(s), not either of the DLC. Note the thread we're in.

@MileSeven I can't rule out stuffing something up somewhere with a quick test, but I think I'm doing the same thing I did originally and getting the same results as you - the status works but the activation isn't.
Click to expand...
OK, good point, just thought the reason for the rFPro not working might be the same. But you are correct, I was off topic.
 
@MileSeven looks like Push2PassHoldButton no longer resolves from boolean (true/false). Need to make it =0. 1 still doesn't appear to work.

I'll update the first post to reflect things found in this thread, to avoid confusion.

*checked a few more things, done editing now.

And yes, I should have switched to the 'known' format for things like Push2PassHoldButton when the upgrades entries were posted here. Still, I didn't expect the handling to change without warning :p
 
Last edited:
Latest RC update changes:

upload_2022-5-4_6-45-8.png
 
I have this PUSH2PASS configuration for the Formula Pro and I don't know if it is correct, I don't see any boost or more consumption when using it, someone has a better configuration.
thank you

  • HDV=[PUSH2PASS]
  • HDV=Push2PassType=0
  • HDV = Push2PassEngineMap = 0
  • HDV=Push2PassThrottleRequired=0 .............."edit"
  • HDV=Push2PassMinStartSpeedKPH=5
  • HDV=Push2PassMaxUses=-1
  • HDV=Push2PassTimePerPush=10
  • HDV=Push2PassMaxTime=360
  • HDV=Push2PassActivationsPerLap=3
  • HDV=Push2PassInRace=1
  • HDV=Push2PassInQuali=1
  • HDV=Push2PassInWarmup=1
  • HDV=Push2PassInPractice=1
 
Last edited:
Flipo said:
I have this PUSH2PASS configuration for the Formula Pro and I don't know if it is correct, I don't see any boost or more consumption when using it, someone has a better configuration.
thank you

[CÓDIGO] HDV=[PUSH2PASS]
HDV=Push2PassType=0
HDV = Push2PassEngineMap = 0
HDV=Push2PassThrottleRequerido=0
HDV=Push2PassMinStartSpeedKPH=5
HDV=Push2PassMaxUses=-1
HDV=Push2PassTimePerPush=10
HDV=Push2PassMaxTime=360
HDV=Push2PassActivationsPerLap=3
HDV=Push2PassInRace=1
HDV=Push2PassInQuali=1
HDV=Push2PassInWarmup=1
HDV=Push2PassInPractice=1[/CÓDIGO]
Click to expand...

See the post above yours, you may need to change the throttle line(s).

Please also avoid translating when pasting parameters, it can mess with them.
 
Flipo said:
I have this PUSH2PASS configuration for the Formula Pro and I don't know if it is correct, I don't see any boost or more consumption when using it, someone has a better configuration.
thank you

  • HDV=[PUSH2PASS]
  • HDV=Push2PassType=0
  • HDV = Push2PassEngineMap = 0
  • HDV=Push2PassThrottleRequired=0 .............."edit"
  • HDV=Push2PassMinStartSpeedKPH=5
  • HDV=Push2PassMaxUses=-1
  • HDV=Push2PassTimePerPush=10
  • HDV=Push2PassMaxTime=360
  • HDV=Push2PassActivationsPerLap=3
  • HDV=Push2PassInRace=1
  • HDV=Push2PassInQuali=1
  • HDV=Push2PassInWarmup=1
  • HDV=Push2PassInPractice=1
Click to expand...

Sorry, only just remembered to come back to this.

Type=0 means you're using the engine Mixture map to implement the P2P. But then you have EngineMap=0 which means even if you activated P2P it won't change the mixture map from 0. So it won't do anything.

Note that to use different mixture maps there needs to be some difference in mixture maps configured. Off the top of my head I don't think you can edit those parameters via an upgrade, but I could be remembering wrong.
 
Updated first post in line with recent changes/discoveries:

- Separate Throttle activation/deactivation threshold lines
- Can enable or disable the ability to deactivate P2P using the button (meaning you need to reach the deactivation throttle threshold or run out of time for it to deactivate)
- HDV sections for separate engine mixture and boost setting limits per session type

One thing of note: failed activations (like not having enough throttle applied) no longer count towards your per-lap allowance.
 
Thank you Lazza, it is appreciated that you are always there, for when someone needs help due to the little information that the S397 gives us when it performs updates.
We now have this setup in our championship and it seems to work fine, although we don't know if we're getting the most out of this new Push2Psss for FPro.
We have let it take some defaults that are in the FPro and adapted some to our championship. In our next race we will know if everything works well.
Thank you

HDV=[PUSH2PASS]
HDV=Push2PassActivateThrottleThreshold=1
HDV=Push2PassDeactivateThrottleThreshold=1
HDV=Push2PassAllowManualDeactivation=1
HDV=Push2PassMaxUses=-1
HDV=Push2PassTimePerPush=6
HDV=Push2PassMaxTime=200
HDV=Push2PassActivationsPerLap=3
HDV=Push2PassInRace=1
HDV=Push2PassInQuali=1
HDV=Push2PassInWarmup=1
HDV=Push2PassInPractice=1
HDV=
 
I've tested at two tracks now, Portland & the VLM Mid Ohio. At both tracks the allowance is 150 seconds but it stops functioning with 30 seconds left. And I'm confused how it is supposed to turn off. For example, I hit P2P at the start of the Portland Main straight. But I don't get the message that P2P had turned off until I'm well past the first chicane and used the brakes, this consumes 20 seconds each use. This is with the IR 18 v1.43.
 
You must log in or register to reply here.
Back
Top