Promo video "Grand Prix" for newly announced rFactor 2 track at Inside Sim Racing

....and that "a lot" is what exactly? Tim, I don't see there anything recent on that video.
Haze, mirage and animated marshals - that has already been covered on previous videos so nothing new and thanks to someone who desperatly tried to have "feeling like beeing in 60's" effect, all details gone from the video (yes, I'm pretty sure it could look much better just without the post processing).

 

Umm, yes, you're perhaps not noticing the one thing this video is actually supposed to show .

 

Which is....?

 

A tiny little track and some lovely cars . I believe THAT was the main objective of the promo (similarly to another studio recently revealing an open-wheeler from under the covers). A tribute to that famous movie was clearly a fitting way to show what the artists have been up to, especially since the track in question was secretly announced here on the forum more than half a year ago.

 

Lesiu probably isn't a fan of the historic track and cars. Maybe that's why he complains a little bit

 

Yeah, nice but at first look (so, NOT analysing single frames...) it looked like a decent track from rF 1. When I analised the video in wmv then I started noticing some nice stuff but thanks to so called "great" post effects, I don't see a lot of details (again, without analising frame after frame) that would show the greatness of it.

I would like to see that "a tribute to..." done with more complete version of rF 2. For me, doing such demanding (well, it is a tribute and not just a video of a ride on streets of historical Monte Carlo) video brings some responsibility and doing it on unfinished, beta version...well, let's say, you would not like to hear my honest opinion on that ;-)

OK, probably there are no F1 cars from that era on rF 1... fair enough then. Of course we already saw some screens with 3d models of various cars we will see in rF 2 so actually nothing new on the video (they just got "clothes" ;-) )

Don't see it, thanks to post processing effects which took off all the details you could see on a raw full hd material.

Textures looks pretty low res (I saw much better in rF 1 already on various tracks and mods) but that might be due to post processing which makes everything more blurry/less detailed that actually might be.

I don't see those cars "working" on bumps as should. They look rather pretty flat driving, to be honest...we will see when the beta comes out.

Saw that already from your tech preview. Still though, I have no idea how it's possible you have rubbered line on a straight line, far from apex area... right now it looks like some sort of an issue that will be fixed during the open beta period.

It could be just a static texture the devs put there.... There is no evidence on the video for what you said. To really prove that, you would have to show a tech demo, like you did with OW cars, showing how the track gets rubbered.

In rF 1 you can get from a garage straight on the grid so the engine won't be at its highest temperature and on the video you see almost all cars already standing on the grid. There is a moment with visible one car moving slowly probably towards its spot on the grid but that is just my assumption, what's happening there (it's not that evident).

Don't see it at all (and yes, my TV is in perfect shape ;-) ).

Great! But we will see during the beta tests, how good the physics are for these cars

You mean, the plastic tyres and other whicked things thanks to post processing? Right now it looks like some good models I saw plenty already on rF 1, so nothing to make songs about here...

Again, ruined by fake HDR/bloom and color correction post effects.

They look very stiff. Those cars had rather soft suspension and that should be visible especially on bumpy streets of the city... which is not.

There is no clear evidence it was AI, so I assume it was a bunch of humans having a fun race on the track.

I agree, but still nothing jaw dropping (to some extend, thanks to post processing)

Looks better, so I agree on that.

It could be recorded on a Sandy Bridge @ 5,5GHz and Quad-SLI setup and in that case, having good fps is nothing great. There is no evidence on what machine it was running on so... and the state of developement is, you were using fake HDR - compared to recent screens with in-game HDR... I would say it was a step back in the developement

You were supposed to present a second set of Q&A a few months ago... and some other stuff you mentioned you will show us "later" but apparently, you forget about that, don't you?


EDIT:
Tim, you didn't mention about some nice puddles which are clearly visible in 2:05 ;-)

 

To be honest, you could just write at the begining, what is worth to notice on the video and how it is related to developement (what's new, what's old), apart it beeing a tribute the the movie.

Also, you call this particular video a promo video of rFactor 2, so the community probably was expecting to see rF 2 in the most recent state on the vid.

 

High quality doesn't mean only high res and high aniso settings.
What about artistic quality? What about variety?
This is also quality.

Track surface looks very natural. I'm really curious which track in rf1 has so good textures. I don't know any.

Not all community, maybe a part

 

Tim specified exactly, what he meant:

and I answered exactly on that.


So please, read more carefully next time ;-)

 

I can write again the same thing

Texture quality doesn't mean only high res settings. Not for everybody ;-)

 

It's not a painting... you get textures on cars (so real world historic liveries) and you have textures for historic Monte Carlo and you want to make them as realistic and possible. Tarmac texture should look like a tarmac (with proper shader and material properties), yellow line should look like yellow line etc. and I expect it will look good and as should... but I think you are more than aware that even with nice textures,but low res, it won't be looking as should and that's the case. I see nice variety of track textures but all of them are blurry so don't expect me to get exited when there is no real reason for me to be exited (like when I saw screens from various stages of tyre wear - that looked very nice).

 

Once again, if you look at the thread title, it says "Promo video for newly announced rFactor 2 track". At no point does it announce any new features or tech, nor was it published as a dev update or tech snapshot, so one should not expect to find any of that compared to the previous material. Trust me, if there was new tech in the video that deserves your entire attention, it would get its own pure and dedicated publication. I don't even fully understand why one would look for things that aren't shown in the first place ... just like I don't expect to see any of that fancy rubbish on my pizza when I know that I've ordered a plain and simple margherita .

Anyway, I personally wouldn't have called this a promo video. To me it's always felt more like a 'content teaser'; an announcement. We could have opted for a dry and boring written announcement, but I'm sure most people will agree that an artistic video is a slightly better way; a different way.