Porsche Carrera GT

redapg said:
@Emery Don't you think that were the Tires or something else? The Car should not bottom out under normal Circumstances in my Opinion.
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Definitely the front overhang striking in dips at 2:16-2:18 (YouTube time mark, not video overlay)
Again at 2:45-2:48 as he's braking (stock Corvettes & Pontiac Trans Ams often scrape front overhang at other locales under similar conditions)
3:36
7:31
8:21

There are some other subtle clicks & pops which are more likely bits of gravel. There's one point where it might be a tire rub, not worth mentioning.
 
I thought it was me who had sound config wrong but I see you have the same kerb touching issue, they sound too loud.

About the car being too fast, there´s two things to consider IMO. One is the fear factor, this car is extreme in terms of power/control relationship. The real life driver is not driving relaxed, he is being extra careful, maybe because of the suspension being too hard and/or the drive height too low for the Nordschleife.
The other is mechanical grip, it looks very easy to lose control in slow corners, have a look at the real life video around Flugplatz or other slow/medium turns.

PS. It is impossible to race against convertible cars, they are so beautiful I have to let all of them pass me to watch them closely.
 
@Emery Maybe my Ears are too old already.
I did hear that Noises too but for me it sounded like something from the Inside of the Car. :D

@atomed I haven't watched much Videos, but maybe the Problems in slow Corners are simply caused by the Power of the Engine, when People try to accelerate too much too early.
PS I like the Convertible "Setup" too. :)

EDIT I first thought, that Upgrades to make it a Convertible were only a Gimmick.
But then i thought why not and the 3D Work was not too much to do and when it was finished, i loved it. :)
 
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JEmilio said:
I'm gonna give it a try... any track recommendation?
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I test on the Nürburgring Nordschleife Track.
You could also wait 1 or 2 Days, because i want to release a new Update with overworked Physics, that will not be adjustable for most of the Settings.
But you, of course, also can give it a Try now already. :)
 
@Emery With my overworked Setup i could also "reproduce" the Bottoming out. :)
Unfortunately the Cockpit Sound in the Replay is not the same as if you are driving, so you can not hear the Car scratching on the Ground.
It is at 944.350 Replay Time, at the 2nd Compression of the Front after the Jump.

 
I finally took the car for some laps in Portimao. It's a very different car to any other and that is something to appreciate. In terms of driving what I noticed the most is how easy you can "thrown" the car into tight corners without fear of losing it, or in other words, the car itself throws you into. It feels as if the rear end has a life on its own. On the other hand, in fast corners the car can suddenly lose traction without warning and specially riding over the kerbs. Also it's somehow unstable under braking, it resembles me of the Spyder in Assetto Corsa.
One thing that drawn my attention is how fast the brakes cool down, I always reached turn 1 with front and rear brakes below 80 °C and also the water temperature stayed around 60 °C.
I look forward for the update to compare both builds.
 
@JEmilio Thank you for the Feedback.
I will upload the new Version (0.92b) later today, i guess.
All Settings, except of the Tire Choice and the "Brake Pedal Power" will not be adjustable.
And you still can choose another FFB Strength in the Upgrades.
I will not tell much about the overworked Physics now, to let everybody judge it by her/his own.
But i'm curious about Feedback about it. :)
 
Hello, Chris
Since many people has released their opinions about Your car, I also want to leave You my modest feedback opinion:
the car is clearly enjoyable on tracks, especially those with hard corners. But driving is appearing ..."comfortable".....maybe too.
I think actually it needs some more vivacity in the behavior. When You turn for a corner it's quite impossible to make errors...the car stays on...and it's very stable. In this way, You have no fear....and You can push more....and You can be confident that the car will hold the corners.
I don't know the real car, of course, but maybe, considering that is a sport car for a street, commercial use, tyres should be less permissive.
At the present state, You can't appreciate ( in my opinion mainly due to sound....) the acceleration of the car...or an exasperated braking to stay on the track.
Don't keep me wrong: I like the car....but I have the impression that it is allowing also not so good drivers in track, like me..., to be fast.

Another thing that ( always in my modest opinion..) should be improved is the default steering angle....when You exit from the pit box on a track with narrow pitlane, You have to be careful to avoid to touch the pit wall on the other side of the pitlane. Maybe for a series car some more ( few..) steering degrees are needed?

Graphically, in the main driving position, when You load the car, You can see small parts of the neck driver. Maybe the main cam view should be a little bit more forward, always taking in account the visibility of the left external mirror. And, for a sport position, I think that driver should be a little bit lower.......Yes, I know that one may adjust the seat position, but I'm speaking about the "default" setting.

Last thing, and actually for me the most important: the sound...When You hear the sound in external way....I think it's OK for a V10 Porsche.
But, inside the car, the sound is too hissing and high-pitched...almost as if it is coming from another engine.
A good, louder engine sound in driving position can make more real the sensation of "taming this beast" ....For me the car is really well done, and deserves this " voice".

Thank You so much, Chris
 
Thank you @Nicola59 for the Feedback. :)
Just a few Points.
The Steering Wheel Rotation Angle is set to 900° already (original Car has 1080° from what i've found in the Internet).
And the Steer Lock Angle is 30°.
That should be enough to leave even the Garages at tightest Pit Lanes.
You just have to steer a bit more. :)

I have tested at the Nürburgring Nordschleife almost exclusively and i tried to get as much as possible mechanical Grip, because i think that the Car has a high Level of it.
But you can also exaggerate it easily and get the Car spinning, when you stay on the Throttle in some Situations.

I didn't change the Tires and the Downforce at Front and Rear of the former Version.
But i plan to test the Tires with a higher Pressure, because the current 1.5 Bar are too low for a Street Car.

I, of course (and unfortunately :)) did never drive the real Car, so it's hard to "find" the real Behaviour.
But there are Videos of Jay Lenno for Example, where he loses the Car while driving on an Oval.
Or also the fatal Accident with Paul Walker, where he was the Co-Pilot.
And there are more Reports about dangerous Behaviour of the Car

I don't want to make the Car too easy to drive, but i also don't want to have it driving "uncontrollable" under all Conditions, because it isn't in real Life.
It's just hard to set it up in a Way that it exactly behaves like the real Car, when you have never driven the real Car.

And the Sounds...... no Comment. :D
 
@Nicola59 ... i forgot... the Driver default View.
I was selfish with that and did set it in the Way that it is optimal for me on my 1920 x 1080 Screen. :)
The Seat Movement Ranges allow to move it to any other Position, that everybody should find his optimal one.
 
@Taranta Thank you for the Link, i didn't find that Video due to my www Searches yet.

Now i have a new Target Lap Time. :)

As it seems, the main Problem with the Car have been the Tires.
Even Walter Röhrl, who did make all the Test Driving on the Nürburgring Nordschleife, did say that this Car scares him.

And if you see Videos from his Driving in Group B Rallies in the Past, such a Statement from him has to be taken serious.

But it also seems to be dangerous only, when you push it too much and in Combination with "old" Tires.

That Car has a Traction Control System and Walter Röhrl did say that the Switch to activate it, should be painted in red, to signal the Driver to always use it.

HERE is just one of the hundreds short Articles about that Car (German Language), that you can find in the Internet.
 
Well... no one expected that. But it could have been imagined. I did actually manifest this in my imagination recently, jk. What a coincidence to have this mod appear recently, and now this surprising record lap.

It proves what I previously said, and what Chris was suspecting too - the car is very fast. And previously posted old lap was not only on worse tires, but also was way under the limit.

Actually this lap also was still careful to a degree. I think it starts to show why this car is dangerous. It is on the softer side for modern standards. I suspect that the chassis might not be the most stiff, for modern standards maybe ? Grippier tires probably makes this car more dangerous.

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It does look good though haha, but maybe CFP subframes are slightly flexy https://www.stuttcars.com/porsche-model-research/porsche-supercars/porsche-carrera-gt-research/

The downforce is probably similar to late 60s sportscars prototypes. Most of it coming from undertray. Which is another reason why I like this car so much. However running low, and not having the highest amount of stiffness it probably does have little bit of diffuser stalling sometimes. I can see how that can produce some sharp moments.
 
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